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View Poll Results: Should Brock Lesnar be in the UFC Hall of Fame ?

Yes, he basically has his own era. Brought fans and overcame a lot to win the title. 9 15.25%
No...just no. 46 77.97%
Eventually but not right now. 4 6.78%
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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PPV buy rates should never equate to a reason to include someone in a Hall of Fame in my opinion. A hall of fame inductee should have won a lot of fights, won titles, and for the most part, been fairly consistent. Brock accomplished a lot in his short career, but not enough to be in the HOF. But I have a feeling Dana will add him some day.
depends if you look at it as honoring the growth of the sport or simply competitive achievement.

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Dang, he got a bunch of wrestling fans to watch him fight. We should just give him the belt back right now and let him run the UFC while we're at it.
and media, and casual interest and sponsorship deals

and the hype bubble that wound up leading to the fox deal and the consolidation of both the heavyweight elite and the acquisition of strikeforce.

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Old 04-27-2012, 07:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Your username essentially sums up my feelings on this thread.


Also, No.
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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depends if you look at it as honoring the growth of the sport or simply competitive achievement.

ken shamrock is 6/6 in the ufc



and media, and casual interest and sponsorship deals

and the hype bubble that wound up leading to the fox deal and the consolidation of both the heavyweight elite and the acquisition of strikeforce.
He did not grow the sport. He simply got a bunch of wrestling fans to watch his fights. If he had grown the sport those numbers would have been reflected across every PPV since he fought.

He made the HW division look like a joke, he didn't consolidate anything. The fact that someone that couldn't even take a punch made it to the top was an embarrassment.

You're giving him way too much credit.
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He brought hundreds of millions of dollars into the sport, was the number one ranked HW in the world and defeated 3 UFC champions. Without Brock there is a chance MMA would not be around today. Ken Shamrock and Mark Coleman are hall of famers, if that's the bar and standard of a Hall of Famer than Brock has my vote.
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He brought hundreds of millions of dollars into the sport, was the number one ranked HW in the world and defeated 3 UFC champions. Without Brock there is a chance MMA would not be around today. Ken Shamrock and Mark Coleman are hall of famers, if that's the bar and standard of a Hall of Famer than Brock has my vote.
Yes but Ken and Coleman were pioneers. Without them, there is no MMA. I don't have a problem with them being in it for that sole reason. They did more for the sport and the UFC than Brock ever did.
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He did not grow the sport. He simply got a bunch of wrestling fans to watch his fights. If he had grown the sport those numbers would have been reflected across every PPV since he fought.

He made the HW division look like a joke, he didn't consolidate anything. The fact that someone that couldn't even take a punch made it to the top was an embarrassment.

You're giving him way too much credit.
there is a notable pull factor if you look at the ppv and lets face it, ppv has dropped considerably in the last year or so since his career wound down. i didnt go there because the fact is its all conjecture and also there have been quite a few injuries to key talents.

i disagree. i think he helped the sports profile in terms of viability and even to an extent it legitimacy. it was a big part of the story that this was a wrestler fighting for real.

im not saying he was p4p anywhere near the best at any given time, but his name was gold and dana knew that and milked that cow for all it was worth. the profits of this era have set the foundation for the whole mma landscape today. the consolidation of a virtual monopoly and the purchase of strikeforce. also the formation of a definitive heavyweight roster (with a few notable exceptions) for the first time in ufc history. once again, heavyweight may be shunned largely by the purists, but remains potentially the biggest market.
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The tapout guy is in the hall of fame, does he deserve it more than a past champion? Tito fought a whos who of scrubs during his title reign and he'll make it in. He brought tons of fans but that's about it.

I don't think Brock deserves it but there are less deserving people in it right now.
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I vote yes, what the guy did was unprecedented and set tons of new records.

Like it or not things like what place you had in the company (brock was the top dog) and how many fans wanted to see you fight (brock wins by a country mile) affects HOF potential. For me he was so unique that I really don't think anyone else could ever do what he did, and he deserves his place in the history books.
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UFC 80 - 225,000
UFC 81 - 600,000 - Brock
UFC 82 - 325,000
UFC 83 - 525,000
UFC 84 - 450,000
UFC 85 - 225,000
UFC 86 - 550,000
UFC 87 - 500,000 - Brock
UFC 88 - 510,000
UFC 89 - SPIKE TV
UFC 90 - 300,000
UFC 91 - 750,000 - Brock
UFC 92 - 1,000,000
UFC 93 - 350,000
UFC 94 - 800,000
UFC 95 - SPIKE TV
UFC 96 - 375,000
UFC 97 - 650,000
UFC 98 - 635,000
UFC 99 - 360,000
UFC 100 - 1,720,000 (MMA Record) - Brock
UFC 101 - 1,050,000
UFC 102 - 535,000
UFC 103 - 400,000
UFC 104 - 475,000
UFC 105 - SPIKE TV
UFC 106 - 375,000
UFC 107 - 620,000
UFC 108 - 300,000
UFC 109 - 275,000
UFC 110 - 240,000
UFC 111 - 770,000
UFC 112 - 500,000
UFC 113 - 520,000
UFC 114 - 1,050,000
UFC 115 - 620,000
UFC 116 - 1,200,000 - Brock
UFC 117 - 600,000
UFC 118 - 570,000
UFC 119 - 295,000
UFC 120 - SPIKE TV
UFC 121 - 1,050,000 - Brock
UFC 122 - SPIKE TV
UFC 123 - 500,000
UFC 124 - 785,000
UFC 125 - 270,000
UFC 126 - 725,000
UFC 127 - 260,000
UFC 128 - 445,000
UFC 129 - 850,000
UFC 130 - 300,000
UFC 131 - 325,000
UFC 132 - 350,000
UFC 133 - 310,000
UFC 134 - 335,000
UFC 135 - 450,000
UFC 136 - 250,000
Just because someone draws PPV's doesn't mean they're any good. Brock Lesnar was a good wrestler who used his wrestling and a big size and strength advantage to beat lesser opponents, but had a huge hole in his fighting game and was made to look silly by true martial artists - no hall of famer, IMO.
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