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Old 04-30-2012, 09:12 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Yes is is clearly Dana. I mean it has to be.

This guy has signed every other big name for at least 1 fight. This is the same guy that signed freaking James Toney and Kimbo. I'm sure Dana is playing a little more hardball with Fedor and M1 but that's business. If M1 would get off their high horse a deal would happen. In Dana's eyes Fedor/M1 needs him...He does not need Fedor/M1. And I agree
The point is, G, that Dana talks about M-1 like they are pointless. The reality is, in Russia and its other regions then get huge viewing numbers = not pointless.

The world is changing and we may well find ourselves falling behind in consumer power to countries in the east soon enough. Meaning more and more sponsors being attracted to M-1.

If the UFC had signed Fedor the viewing numbers would have been far in excess of anything before. Mainly due to visibility in M-1s regions. Way I see it, why shouldn't they have demands? Should they let the UFC come in and get a foothold in markets M-1 have been working on for years? Just like that?

I don't see why so many of you take Danas word on this shit. He didn't get his own way and is pissed about it. Par the course for Dana, surely?
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:22 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The point is, G, that Dana talks about M-1 like they are pointless. The reality is, in Russia and its other regions then get huge viewing numbers = not pointless.

The world is changing and we may well find ourselves falling behind in consumer power to countries in the east soon enough. Meaning more and more sponsors being attracted to M-1.

If the UFC had signed Fedor the viewing numbers would have been far in excess of anything before. Mainly due to visibility in M-1s regions. Way I see it, why shouldn't they have demands? Should they let the UFC come in and get a foothold in markets M-1 have been working on for years? Just like that?

I don't see why so many of you take Danas word on this shit. He didn't get his own way and is pissed about it. Par the course for Dana, surely?
im going to say one more thing.

as a business man and as a guardian of the ufc, dana has every right to say no to m1.

HOWEVER. by constantly reiterating the lie that they are ILLEGITIMATE and FEDOR IS BAD, they are playing you all for fools.

yes dana, if you feel a deal is not in your interests, take your horse and cart and piss off.

however, dont insult peoples intelligence by pretending A that fedor sucks or B that M1 is not a legitimite company.

you do not not believe these things yourself

you telegraph constantly in your words and expressions that you do not believe these things yourself.

what island dana? i have google earth...which island. dotn pretend you dont know the name of your island in your embedded lie to make m1 look like bond villains.

"read my lips no new taxes."

"there are weapons of mass destruction."

and fair enough you are being a good company man by attacking perceived threats and competition, but if you were a smarter man then fedor would have fought in ufc and you would be able to put on a decent show in germany.

smfh.

my personal opinion in watching this and other videos over and over is that dana sees m1 as a threat and his failure to sign fedor as the biggest **** up in the history of his career. the one thing everyone wanted and he couldnt deliver. he probably went in guns blazing and screwed up the deal. i think he honestly feels personally responsible. thats why his lies are so flagrant and obvious. and i almost actually feel bad for him. in his role signing fedor would have been delivering the one thing everyone wanted, and i really feel he takes it hard that he failed.

the alternative to danas lies are admitting that he sees m1 as a threat or legit company, and that he knows damn well fedor is the GOAT and a very good top ten fighter who on his night could beat anyone.

of course he isnt going to say that, but he would do better just to say that fedors an all time great and unfortunately he couldnt reach a deal with m1. and wish them well for the future. that way he doesnt look like an arsehat every single time the name comes up.

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Old 04-30-2012, 09:31 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The point is, G, that Dana talks about M-1 like they are pointless. The reality is, in Russia and its other regions then get huge viewing numbers = not pointless.

The world is changing and we may well find ourselves falling behind in consumer power to countries in the east soon enough. Meaning more and more sponsors being attracted to M-1.

If the UFC had signed Fedor the viewing numbers would have been far in excess of anything before. Mainly due to visibility in M-1s regions. Way I see it, why shouldn't they have demands? Should they let the UFC come in and get a foothold in markets M-1 have been working on for years? Just like that?

I don't see why so many of you take Danas word on this shit. He didn't get his own way and is pissed about it. Par the course for Dana, surely?

I take what Dana says with a grain of salt. Dana is a business man but he aint stupid. If it was up to him I guarantee Fedor would be fighting for the title soon. At least fighting. As I said before Dana has signed way less as far as talent AKA James Toney.

So that is why I believe M1 is still asking for Co-Promotion and something else retarded . And that is something Dana has never been for. And I can't blame him.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I take what Dana says with a grain of salt. Dana is a business man but he aint stupid. If it was up to him I guarantee Fedor would be fighting for the title soon. At least fighting. As I said before Dana has signed way less as far as talent AKA James Toney.

So that is why I believe M1 is still asking for Co-Promotion and something else retarded . And that is something Dana has never been for. And I can't blame him.
Ok. So, say they did sign the fight. Would you want the fight to be aired in M-1's regions? Russia etc. Surely you would, right? Seeing as it will get at least 10 million tuning in from their regions alone. Now, with that in mind, how is that fair on M-1? These regions have been cultivated by them for years. Why should the UFC jump on those coattails and hitch a ride with no co-promotion. To me, it doesn't seem right.

If the UFC had no intention of airing in M-1s regions, then fair enough. They should never co-promote. But I think getting into those regions is all Dana was thinking about with this deal.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I take what Dana says with a grain of salt. Dana is a business man but he aint stupid. If it was up to him I guarantee Fedor would be fighting for the title soon. At least fighting. As I said before Dana has signed way less as far as talent AKA James Toney.

So that is why I believe M1 is still asking for Co-Promotion and something else retarded . And that is something Dana has never been for. And I can't blame him.
lastly the idea of a patronising cowboy dana rushing in like george bush and annoying everyone didnt ever cross your mind. the idea that m1 in fact said no to dana didnt cross your mind...and thats why hes so mad.

ive said enough on this thread. dana is a good business man and ufc is a great company. lets wish them all the best for the future lol.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
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ufc is just one circus on trhe global market. they are the biggest and best org by a mile and a half. i agree.

on the other hand, how did they do in germany and how are they doing with ufc russia (or anywhere east of britain) and how are they doing enticing the generation of russian fighters that exist and will come from a nation of 140 million proud people. and thats just russia.

look at the world. m1 basically owns eastern europe. they run shows all over europe and asia.

do they really need dana and his neo colonial lying ass.

deep down you know dana is lying. he doesnt even believe half the things he is saying himself. a 1st year psychology student or a bog standard poker player can spot all the lies and tells he leaks.

as far as i know, when people ask m1 and fedor they basically smile it off and say nothing. thats how men act when they cant find a deal. what dana is doing is acting like m1 and fedor are a threat to him. hell he is going around signing every remotely good heavyweight just so they cant fight fedor.

you believe in dana. i get that. not everyone lives in america or buys his bullshit. all i see is A and B. A is lying through his teeth and B is keeping his mouth shut and building up their business. m1=/=fedor. its eastern europe, guys from asia and westrern europe and any fighter that dont like dana. and thats the real story here.
So M1 is just ...biding their time....waiting for the perfect time to strike?

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Ok. So, say they did sign the fight. Would you want the fight to be aired in M-1's regions? Russia etc. Surely you would, right? Seeing as it will get at least 10 million tuning in from their regions alone. Now, with that in mind, how is that fair on M-1? These regions have been cultivated by them for years. Why should the UFC jump on those coattails and hitch a ride with no co-promotion. To me, it doesn't seem right.

If the UFC had no intention of airing in M-1s regions, then fair enough. They should never co-promote. But I think getting into those regions is all Dana was thinking about with this deal.
Why would they not air in M1's regions? Do they own the airing companies? That is an honest question. Because in the U.S. Zufa shares the air with the other promotions....whats left of them anyways
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fedors fight against monson was 7.4 million on russian tv. thats 2 million more than brock (retired) v reem (drugs cheat) - if you want to bash fighters dana lets get something straight.
I'm not so sure of that.

Fedor vs. Monson got a 1.9 rating in Russia.

Assuming 100% of the Russian population lives in a household with a television, a 1.9 rating would translate into a bit over 2.7M people watching.

The repeat the next day got a 0.7 rating. Which would be about 1.0M people watching.

I didn't see any other repeats there. Though I know M-1's original press release claiming 7.5M viewers mentioned three total showings of the event.

And I assume you meant it was more watched than Cain vs. JDS on Fox, not Brock vs. Overeem on PPV.
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Fedor never competing in the UFC would be a tragedy.

I dont think Fedor is done, I think he could make some noise in the UFC. Especially if he were to move to LHW.
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From what I remember they wanted to co promote, sign his red devil team members to UFC. still compete in Sambo and pick his own opponents.
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I take what Dana says with a grain of salt. Dana is a business man but he aint stupid. If it was up to him I guarantee Fedor would be fighting for the title soon. At least fighting. As I said before Dana has signed way less as far as talent AKA James Toney.

So that is why I believe M1 is still asking for Co-Promotion and something else retarded . And that is something Dana has never been for. And I can't blame him.
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If Fedor really is part owner of a decent chunk of M1-Global then I understand why he and his team insist on co-promotion.

A fighters career is short, you need to make plans for life after fighting, and I think Fedor has a plan and is not going to let Dana white change them. Plus Fedor is a proud man and proud of his culture, I don't think that to him money is a substitute to basically being your own boss.

Obviously Dana is not going to bend over backwards to Fedor's demands because it would set a bad precedent.
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