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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 05-02-2012, 04:37 PM Thread Starter
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Nate Diaz, Johny Hendricks Guaranteed Title Opportunities With Wins at UFC on FOX*3

May 2, 2012 - Are the main and co-main event of this weekend's UFC on FOX 3 lightweight and welterweight title eliminators? The answer is 'yes', but only if you're lucky enough to be named Nate Diaz or Johny Hendricks.

UFC President Dana White spoke to the media Wednesday via conference call and confirmed title opportunities were technically on the line, but the chances of Miller or Koscheck earning those shots seemed remote.

"We're in one of those situations that we were in before with [Phil] Davis and [Rashad] Evans," said White, referencing the predicament affecting the aforementioned light heavyweights heading into UFC on FOX 2. "Should Diaz win, Diaz is definitely getting a title shot. Should Miller win, Miller's probably going to be a fight or two away."

White didn't explain the calculation behind his decision. However, there is a meritorious and availability case to be made for Diaz. He's 2-0 since returning to lightweight, beating Takanori Gomi by armbar at UFC 135 and throttling Donald Cerrone en route to a unanimous decision at UFC 141.

Miller, by contrast, had a superb run in the lightweight division from UFC 100 to UFC 128, but fell short against now champion Ben Henderson at UFC on Versus 5. The AMA Fight Club-trained fighter rebounded nicely against Melvin Guillard at UFC on FX 1, but his bout with Diaz only marks only his second fight since losing to Henderson.

According to the USA TODAY/MMA Nation Rankings, Miller is ranked 5th at lightweight while Diaz checks in at 7th. There are other lightweights ahead of both Miller and Diaz, but they're all tied up in other bouts or have more recent career losses. Henderson is set to rematch Frankie Edgar at UFC 150 and Clay Guida will face off against Gray Maynard at UFC on FX 4. Guida is ranked higher than Diaz, but he and Maynard are also both coming off of losses.

As for Johny Hendricks and Josh Koscheck, White said their predicament mirrored Miller vs. Diaz. Should Hendricks win, he'd receive a title shot. Koscheck, on the other hand, would likely be required to fight and win one or two additional times.

Hendricks and Koscheck are ranked 5th and 6th, respectively, in the welterweight division. The only two fighters ahead of both are Jake Ellenberger and Nick Diaz. Ellenberger is scheduled to face Martin Kampmann at the TUF: Live Finale while Diaz is currently unable to fight until his suspension is lifted or expires in Nevada.
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Miller has lost to Edgar and Bendo, but do you agree that he not be given a shot if he defeats Diaz?

I agree with the Hendricks/Kos scenario.

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Defeating Fitch and Kos would certainly be enough to grant Johnny a title shot. That said, I don't see him getting passed Kos. A flash KO of Jon Fitch isn't enough to convince me that this guy is the real deal.
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Defeating Fitch and Kos would certainly be enough to grant Johnny a title shot. That said, I don't see him getting passed Kos. A flash KO of Jon Fitch isn't enough to convince me that this guy is the real deal.
Agreed. Having wins over Fitch and Kos one after another would be feckin' impressive, and would definitely warrent a title shot.

I really do not see him winning though. And I think he'd lose handily in a rematch against Fitch.

If he wins though, fair enough, he 's legit.

Flash KOs sure look pretty, but they piss me off sometimes too...

Also, I agree with the Diaz Miller title shot decisions too. Nate would have earned it, I just wouldn't feel like Miller had.

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I think it's stupid to be handing out title shots for LW at this point. Whoever earns theirs is going to be waiting forever to fight for the belt because of the rematch. Then they're going to have to wait even longer because everyone knows there's going to be a rematch of the rematch.

I hate the LW belt right now. One of the most intriguing divisions and it's bogged down by constant rematches.
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Watch both of them win and neither of them get the next title shot for some reason. It seems like anytime there is any sort of verbal guarantee from DW and injury or something odd happens and it seems to never get fulfilled.
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Say Nate wins. His going to wait til' August just to see who he fights and then prepare for the title fight (assuming nobody gets injured). That really sucks man. Sometimes there's just too much waiting going on.

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I see why Kos wouldn't get a title shot right away but man, why would Miller have to wait. he's a beast. He should have that opportunity too not "two fights more and yeah, maybe then man."

Edit: Actually, I take that back. Miller should have some fights more since I was informed that Benson manhandled Miller and the rematch between those two would suck. So yeah. I think Dana does his thing and does this right here.

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Good. Miller doesn't deserve it at all.
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Look at what the LW division has become. I remember there were too many contenders to choose from at one point. Now Nate freaking Diaz might get a title shot.

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