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post #1 of 52 (permalink) Old 05-07-2012, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
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Article: Michael Bisping is 'pissed off' : Hector Lombard's future title shot

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Since when does knocking out "John the baker" put you in line for a title shot?

That's a question longtime Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) middleweight title chaser Michael Bisping wants answered after learning that Bellator import Hector Lombard could earn a crack at the division crown by stopping Brian Stann at UFC on FOX 4 later this year.

"The Count," meanwhile, is relegated to "Barbarian" bashing at UFC 149 on July 21 in Calgary.

Fighting Tim Boetsch north of the border is a direct result of losing to Chael Sonnen at UFC on FOX 2 earlier this year, but Bisping is still "pissed off" that Lombard is shooting up the ranks like "Lightning."

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"It does piss me off a little bit, you know? Iíve been slugging away in the UFC for six years now, fighting the best guys in the world and just because Hector Lombardís been knocking out little part-time fighters who probably hold down jobs full-time and heís been knocking out people that I havenít got a clue who they are, I havenít even heard of them, you know, while Iíve been knocking out the best fighters in the world and fighting the best consistently for six years and heís going to come in from knocking out John the baker from around the corner and you know, he gets a title shot?"
I have to agree with him partially. There are some things to consider, he was just in a #1 contenders fight in which he lost. Also he makes it sound like he has been KO'ing people when in reality he has quite a few decision wins over notable people and finishes against non-top 10 competition. Also even his most ardent fans will agree he is only given main event or co-main even fights due to the UK market, not because of his amazing fights.

Still I do agree that he has been fighting significantly more high end talent than Lombard.
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Lombard has to get past Stann first. And this is not the first time the UFC has brought in talent from other orgs and have given them title shots after one win. They did it for Jake Sheilds and Overeem (until he was busted). They were going to give Diaz a title shot upon arival until he screwed himself.

Bisping is right about the level of competition, but he should not be surprized.

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Somebody needs to tell Bisping that

A. He lost his last fight (although I scored it in his favor)
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B. Brian Stann is a top fighter

It's not like Hector is guaranteed anything, if Bisping KOs Boetsch in his next fight I'm sure the UFC will look at a Lombard-Bisping matchup.
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Somebody needs to tell Bisping that

A. He lost his last fight Correct)

B. Brian Stann is a top fighter Incorrect
Why do people say this? Brian Stann is not now nor will he ever be a top fighter. He will always be a fearless, heavy handed striker with actual heroics to his name. That will keep him a fan favorite but top fighter? Give me break. The man has no ground game. None. Everyone who takes him down - which is everybody who tries - beats him. He has no defensive wrestling or bjj.

His only submission victory - which someone will bring up to discredit the notion of him having no ground game - was against Mike Massenzio. Who was subbed at the last event for the 4th time in 9 fights. He's also 3-6 in his last night. Not a good argument.

On topic though I believe Bisping should be a little pissed off as I believe UFC fighters should be when they just bring someone who has been beating cans in and gives them a title fight after maybe a fight.

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Bisping has yet to beat a top ten fighter in his entire career. He lost his last fight. There was no robbery about it, it was a clear win for Chael Sonnen. He's been fed mostly cans and declining fighters his entire career. When he fights top fighters, he loses. The Rashad, Chael, and Wanderlei fights were close, but he still lost. He had to cheat to beat Jorge Rivera, beat a strung out Chris Leben, an overhyped and undersized Akiyama, and an undersized journeyman in Dan Miller. None of those fighters have ever been ranked inside the top ten.

I really don't know what Bisping is whining about, but England's finest has always been a whiner so it doesn't surprise me.
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Why do people say this? Brian Stann is not now nor will he ever be a top fighter. He will always be a fearless, heavy handed striker with actual heroics to his name. That will keep him a fan favorite but top fighter? Give me break. The man has no ground game. None. Everyone who takes him down - which is everybody who tries - beats him. He has no defensive wrestling or bjj.

His only submission victory - which someone will bring up to discredit the notion of him having no ground game - was against Mike Massenzio. Who was subbed at the last event for the 4th time in 9 fights. He's also 3-6 in his last night. Not a good argument.

On topic though I believe Bisping should be a little pissed off as I believe UFC fighters should be when they just bring someone who has been beating cans in and gives them a title fight after maybe a fight.
Actually, I say he is a top 10 fighter at Middleweight.

The thing with Middleweight division is that it is not as pack as WW and LW. On top of it, the way Anderson Silva dominated it is making it harder to establish/built a contenter.

And I believe Stann TDD has improved. But there is no definite gauge on it as the last wrestler he faced was Chael who took down just about everybody.

On the topic, I kind of agree with Bisping. Despite I consider Stann a top 10 Middleweight, I think you need to beat at least 2 top 10 fighter to be consider as a leigit contender for our P4P King.
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Will Lombard really be granted a title shot if he beats Stann?? REALLY?? If this is true then I completely understand why Bisping is upset.

If Lombard gets a shot before Alan Belcher and Mark Munoz (assuming he beats Weidman) then this will be a HUGE fail on UFC's part.
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Will Lombard really be granted a title shot if he beats Stann?? REALLY?? If this is true then I completely understand why Bisping is upset.

If Lombard gets a shot before Alan Belcher and Mark Munoz (assuming he beats Weidman) then this will be a HUGE fail on UFC's part.
People are forgetting about Munoz who should be the next contender if he wins against Weidman.

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Lombard needs to fight Sonnen, Munoz, Belcher, Bisping, heck any of the top guys after Stann before he's even in the running.

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Anyone else want to point out that Michael Bisping has beaten exactly the same amount of top ten fighters Hector Lombard has.
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