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Old 05-07-2012, 08:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Agreed.

Interim titles are cheesy.

There is no use for them besides it providing false hype because it is for belt that isn't even real.

I don't get how a fake title keeps a division going? So if there is no fake made up belt the division all of a sudden stops? Why?

I also don't get how people can say well if GSP for example decided to retire they would have a champ. No they wouldn't. Condit never beat the cham. Hell he hasn't even fought him. So how would that make him the champ? I would figure they would put 2 of the top contenders together and declare it for the vacant championship. Some guy who is said to be the 2nd best shouldn't just automatically be champ. Hendricks beat Fitch and Kos last 2 fights...why wouldn't he be called the champ if GSP retired today?

Makes no sense.
good points man.

Maybe I'm the minority, but I don't think the UFCs intention was to use them as mechanism to sell more PPVs. I think people are gonna shell out the $50-60 based on who's fighting, and not if some made-up distinction is on the line.

I think when people say "keep the division going" they mean (at least I do) that you have the "#1 active fighter" or "champion" fighting against the next top contender. If the real champion is going to be out for an extended period, then there's some logic in having a interim belt - but only if it's treated as a real belt and the holder defends as if it were a real belt (i.e. 2-3 times a year).

If you are allowed to win the interim belt, and then wait as long as you please for the champion to return, it kind of defeats the purpose. You should have to defend the interim title as if you were the real champion - because that's what the distinction is mimicking. The purpose is that when the champion heals, he is in-line to fight the #1 contender for the belt. If the interim belt holder hasn't fought in 9+ months, he might as well be injured too. Then what - do we have an interim-interim belt?
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I agree it is there to sell more and create hype. But about 95% of the people here don't buy it, so I think the general public should open their eyes as well.

If a interim belt was treated as a real belt then the original champ would just be stripped. That is how you make it just like the real belt.

I don't see how an interim keeps the division moving? You just make logical matchups from here forward and when GSP or Cruz are ready they will just fight the #1 contender. I don't see why it has to have a title label to it. Perhaps back when all non-title fights were 3 rounds. But now a main event will go 5 rounds anyway even if a title name isn't attached.

A fake title shouldn't be needed to keep it going. Why can't they just make quality matchups in teh mean time? For example. Hendricks and Condit could fight right now. Winner gets GSP. Say GSP isn't ready some how...then they just do winner of that fight vs. winner of Kampmann/Ellenberger.

Doesn't seem like rocket science to me. It is all about creating false hype that casual fans fall for. You don't need to attach fake belts to fights. People should realize that the TRUE champ is out and they would just be deciding the best #1 contender out there.

Hendricks/Condit right now would be a true #1 contenders fight. Hell Condit shouldn't even get the shot. Hendricks has done more to deserve it than Condit has.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I agree with everyone sentiment.

its meant to be a band aid, that pacifies the general public's need to see title fights, and allows the champ to recover - thus being able to fight the number 1 contender (interim champ)...

the gsp situation is exposing it for what it is 'cause gsp keeps getting injured.

its clear the UFC wants gsp to fight condit or diaz on his return period. He will get his wish. Condit will sit on the shelf.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:47 PM   #24 (permalink)
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so what if gsp blows his knee out again and he is out for another year? should we just wait another year to see what happens? and let the ww division be without a champ for over 2 years? GSP wouldnt even be the same fighter again if that happened and may not even be good enough to even fight for the title again with 2 years off with no training.

Interim belts are back up plans for worst case scenario's, sure they dont mean much while the real champ is due to come back, but its just incase things get out of hand with injurys etc.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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so what if gsp blows his knee out again and he is out for another year? should we just wait another year to see what happens? and let the ww division be without a champ for over 2 years? GSP wouldnt even be the same fighter again if that happened and may not even be good enough to even fight for the title again with 2 years off with no training.

Interim belts are back up plans for worst case scenario's, sure they dont mean much while the real champ is due to come back, but its just incase things get out of hand with injurys etc.
Um, no.

If he was out for another year, you would just strip him of it. And hold perhaps Hendricks vs Condit for the actual title.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:14 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I think at some point the UFC is gonna have to decide on the 'rules' of the 'sport' -

an example would be - if the champ can't defend his title in 6 months, then an interim fight for the belt is held.

And then the champ gets an immediate 'title' shot with the interim champ when he comes back.

Interim Champ should fight on schedule as a regular champ would (imo should be every 4 months min).

If the original champ doesn't fight for a full year he should be stripped, and the interim champ becomes the real champ - but original champ still gets a title shot when he returns, provided it's less than 1.5 years. Anymore then he should fight the number 1 contender first.

Something clear for timelines etc so that everyone knows the rules. I don't honestly know what timelines are best.

I personally just wanna see fights, I hate the waiting around for any fighter. I think the champ should fight, imo if he's not capable of stepping in the octagon at all due to injury or whatever, then he's no longer the champ at that time anymore, so pass it on until you can fight.

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Old 05-08-2012, 04:53 AM   #27 (permalink)
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As much as I would love to say if he is inactive as champ for 'x' amount of time he must be stripped. Given GSP's legacy I would hate to be the first guy to hold the belt without having to win it off the champ. I wouldn't give anyone props for a title unless they beat the champ.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:20 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Is there anyway someone can tweet this to Dana?
I mean genuinely ask him: "Dana, what's the point of the interim belt if carlos is not defending it?"

I'm amazed no one has asked him this in interviews.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:15 AM   #29 (permalink)
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OK then

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Now we wait!
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