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Old 05-08-2012, 06:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Already said this before Diaz brings an element into the game that will attract the masses. But his foil are strong wrestlers who can control em; Maynard, Guida, Bendo, etc. Somebody mentioned that Edgar would be an even worse matchup which I agree with. No way Edgar stands and exchanges. He's gonna dart in and out for all five rounds collecting massive points.

What I want to see is a brawler who actually takes out the Diaz Bros. I can't believe Nate beat Cerrone and Nick handled BJ + Daley at their own game. Even Miller who's pretty composed got caught up in the heat of things and tried landing a flying knee to no avail.

There's no other fighters that fight quite like them. That's what intrigues me. They're BJJ artists first and foremost, not physically imposing, yet they prefer to brawl and usually win. I bet if they made an infomercial on how to fight like them and call it the "Diaz System" they'd make a fortune.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Nate won't beat Pettis, Henderson or Edgar.. He'll be another perennial contender.
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I bet if they made an infomercial on how to fight like them and call it the "Diaz System" they'd make a fortune.
They can only fight like that because of their build. If they were any shorter or had smaller limbs I don't think they'd pull it off as much as they do.
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One thing about the Cerrone match - Cerrone gave away the decision. After getting pummeled in the early rounds he adjusted, started knocking Diaz down with leg kicks, and didn't follow him to the ground.

Diaz has the superior ground game, and might've submitted cowboy, but if that was his rationale then he's a coward. He had to know he needed a finish. He wasn't facing a Duffee style flash knockout that would hurt his career and possibly result in neurological damage, just the risk of a submission. but he still let Nate up.

I lost whatever respect I had for that man after that fight.

As for Frankie, I'm sure he can take Nate down multiple times. Keeping him down is something else entirely. I see Bendo as a worse stylistic matchup to Nate than Frankie.
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As for Frankie, I'm sure he can take Nate down multiple times. Keeping him down is something else entirely. I see Bendo as a worse stylistic matchup to Nate than Frankie.

Thats where you cant use mma math. Even though bendo can stand with edgar, its a whole different story with diaz. Bendo showed you can counter edgar and when hes out of your reach you can kick him. But you cant play the counter game with diaz. The only way diaz loses standing is by someone with great footwork and movement that can stick to the game, like edgar or condit. Edgar has the movement AND the wrestling where as Bendo has the wrestling but not the movement. The only thing that would be a mystery standing up of a Diaz Bendo fight would be if bendo could ragdoll him like rory did. But that could be the best outcome with that fight.



If bendo and diaz fight on a well timed FOX card, and Bendo throws diaz around and demolishes him like rory did, it would launch Bendo into super stardome with the FOX viewers. Even though it would be a beatdown, thats what people go crazy for. Watching the rory fight idk how many times a said HOLY S#@$! It's exciting and it keeps you on the edge of your seat. It would do alot for Bendo's fan base and mma's casual viewer fan base. Thats honestly my biggest interest in this fight.
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no one in the LW division is gonna "ragdoll" Diaz.. even if you re-watch the Rory fight it wasn't until half way through the 3rd round that Nate was actually getting man handled.. this is Rory who is not only 15lbs heavier than any LW but is also a beast in comparison to other welter weights..

the guys saying that fighters like Bendo, Maynard, and Edgar would beat him because of their wrestling are the same guys who only remember the three suplexes that Rory landed on Diaz in the 3rd round... Rory never came close to finishing Nate and didn't even land but 2 or 3 shots in his entire G&P... Rory only got so many takedowns because he couldn't hold Diaz down, Nate is gonna be champ by 2013 no problem

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no one in the LW division is gonna "ragdoll" Diaz.. even if you re-watch the Rory fight it wasn't until half way through the 3rd round that Nate was actually getting man handled.. this is Rory who is not only 15lbs heavier than any LW but is also a beast in comparison to other welter weights..

the guys saying that fighters like Bendo, Maynard, and Edgar would beat him because of their wrestling are the same guys who only remember the three suplexes that Rory on Diaz landed in the 3rd round... Rory never came close to finishing Nate and didn't even land but 2 or 3 shots in his entire G&P... Rory only got so many takedowns because he couldn't hold Diaz down, Nate is gonna be champ by 2013 no problem

Yes and rory is rather inexperienced unlike the likes of bendo, frankie, and maynard. Maynard has already had a close fight with nate, Frankie is smaller then nate, and Bendo is just as big as rory and a better grappler/striker.
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Bendo is just as big as Rory?

And you are saying that Rory's in-experience is responsible for him not being able to damage Nate? is that right?
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Nate has always been my boy since TUF 5 but even putting that aside the streak he has been on I think he could beat anyone in the LW division and be champ for a long time to come
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Bendo is just as big as Rory?

And you are saying that Rory's in-experience is responsible for him not being able to damage Nate? is that right?
Im saying that his inexperience led him to not being able to have the comfort to capitalize on the ground which resulted on him relying on his athletic abilities and strengths in a low risk/high win maneuver like a suplex.

A guy like bendo wouldnt be afraid to jump in nates gaurd. He did it to cerrone, he did it to miller. A guy like frankie would be comfortable enough to score a take down and play it safe by landing a few shots and letting him back up as he showed he wasnt scared to wrestle with maynard, who wrestle f&*#ed him in the first fight. A guy like maynard has already been in nates gaurd and has improved drastically since then, both in his striking and grappling + ground and pound, which he will have confidence in knowing he already survived it when he wasn't as good as he is now.


EDIT : And yes, bendo is just as big as rory. He might even be bigger.
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