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Old 05-19-2012, 12:39 PM   #11 (permalink)

 
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I guess you can argue that Hendricks is top 5, not top 3,

in no particular order

GSP
Condit
Diaz

Hendricks
Ellenberger

Koscheck
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Kampmann
Alves
Penn
Brenneman
MacDonald
Story
Sanchez
Hathaway
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Rory, should be brought along slowly, much like Hendricks 8-1 in Ufc (Sadollah, Funch, Grant, Brenneman, Story, Walburger, Pierce, Fitch, Koscheck) and Ellenberger 6-1 in Ufc (Condit, Pyle, Howard, Rocha, Pierson, Shields, Sanchez) have been.

MacDonald 4-1 in Ufc (Guymon, Condit, Diaz, Pyle, Mills) hasn't had the wins over Fitch #2 at the time, Koscheck #4 at the time, Shields #3 at the time.

Let Macdonald fight an Ebersole, Sanchez, Hathaway, Story,

-Ellenberger/Kampmann loser - June 1, 2012
-Silva/Brenneman winner - June 8, 2012
-Story if he wins - June 22, 2012
-Ebersole if he wins - June 22, 2012
-Kim/Maia winner - July 7, 2012

or a Sanchez or Hathaway as mentioned. MacDonald needs to fight by Sept 22 (Ufc 152 in Toronto) any later is too long of a layoff, Alves/Siyar winner is a long wait.
Really Hendricks isn't top 3? Lets be honest here Hendricks just beat two top 5 WW's back to back while Diaz has only beaten one top 10 WW in his entire career (BJ). I think a pretty strong argument could be made to place Hendricks above Condit if you want the truth. Your blinded by Diaz love to see it any other way. That said he should be booked agains Ellenberger/Kampmann for the same card as Condit/GSP so that they have a replacement on tap to slide him in if anything goes bad.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I agree with him getting the winner of Ellenberger/Kampmann as well.
Yup...the only fight that makes sense tbh.

For the fighters involved...and the for the WW division.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Really Hendricks isn't top 3? Lets be honest here Hendricks just beat two top 5 WW's back to back while Diaz has only beaten one top 10 WW in his entire career (BJ). I think a pretty strong argument could be made to place Hendricks above Condit if you want the truth. Your blinded by Diaz love to see it any other way. That said he should be booked agains Ellenberger/Kampmann for the same card as Condit/GSP so that they have a replacement on tap to slide him in if anything goes bad.
Condit has the interim title so no one's going to rank anyone ahead of him except for GSP.

Hendricks is clearly a top four Welterweight, depending on where you want to rank him and Ellenberger, they're obviously the two best fighters in that division after GSP and Condit. Diaz is not top three let alone top five. His win over BJ was good but Koscheck, and just about anyone else capable of hanging in there with Penn for fifteen minutes could beat him at 170. Diaz' Strikeforce run wasn't that great either, this guy isn't top five.

And people need to stop with the Rory MacDonald stuff, he's a good fighter but the people begging the UFC to give him the Koschecks, Hendricks, Kampmanns of the world need to realize he's 22, and the protege of the Welterweight Champion who is 30. Rory and GSP will most likely never fight so if you just throw Rory in there against those guys and he beats them, when what?
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So Rory should just never fight the top of the division, until GSP retires? Yep, makes sense.

Rory would stomp Johnny, who, following the Koscheck fight, I believe is completely overrated by the internet geeks. A good fighter yes, but he has no business fighting the likes of GSP or Condit. That said, fair is fair. He's defeated Fitch and now Kos, and so it's only just that he get the winner of Ellenberger vs. Kampmann in a contender's bout.
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