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silva and jj 8 point would win 24 88.89%
diaz bros relentless blitzing would prevail 3 11.11%
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Anderson is the best striker in MMA history for a reason. Someone like Nick who comes full steam ahead against a counter-striker like Silva would result in Nick being KO'd. His chin might be as good as it gets but he has never faced someone like Silva, because there is only one.
ridiculous.weve never seen him fight a great striker either.


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Are Jones and Silva really comparable? Not in a million years.

Has Bones ever slipped a punch?

I understand, that they are both mainly distance fighters, but come on now. I don't think ive ever seen Silva move backwards like Bones. If you pressure Bones, he runs. If you pressure Anderson, your likely to get knocked out.

Basically, Anderson can eat Diaz style for breakfast. Bones would simply run away from it.
ive seen silva run a few times. jones emulates silva. he has wrestling too. when silva was jones age, he was losing to cans and getting ktfo in exhibion boxing matches.

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This thread is not about Silva/Jones vs Diaz, this is about comparing styles.

I think given the same reach and size the Diaz style will always win if the fight happens in a boxing ring. In the octagon there's much more space to circle so guys would just try to do what Condit did and circle and circle and circle. Pretty much a toss up.
good post.

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Old 05-18-2012, 04:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
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ridiculous.weve never seen him fight a great striker either.
Thats because there are so few. How many great strikers are in any division? Franklin was top of the tree when he got reconstructed. Vitor Belfort *apparently* has excellent hands. Those are the best two strikers and he dispatched them with ease. Who are the great strikers that either Diaz has faced?


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ive seen silva run a few times. jones emulates silva. he has wrestling too.
Silva running? Aside from the Humiliation of Damian Maia (c) where has Silva ever run crudely backwards like Jones does?

Im not trying to rag on Bones. Hes still so green in many areas. If he ever has half the footwork Silva does, god help us all. I haven't forgotten that at Bones age, Anderson Silva was nowhere near the P4P rankings.
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Thats because there are so few. How many great strikers are in any division? Franklin was top of the tree when he got reconstructed. Vitor Belfort *apparently* has excellent hands. Those are the best two strikers and he dispatched them with ease. Who are the great strikers that either Diaz has faced?




Silva running? Aside from the Humiliation of Damian Maia (c) where has Silva ever run crudely backwards like Jones does?

Im not trying to rag on Bones. Hes still so green in many areas. If he ever has half the footwork Silva does, god help us all. I haven't forgotten that at Bones age, Anderson Silva was nowhere near the P4P rankings.
franklin is...well...he achieved a lot. belforts legit. silva got out of his way at the start. the maia comment is mystique talking. cicular arguments about greatness explaining something typically ridiculed. bet you think he was running a long game on chael just to troll him too.

things like the belfort ko look inevitable, when they really may have had a touch of luck or at least a one time only use.

mw has no great strikers. bisping is literally up there. mma does tho, in other divisions.

the mw top 10 is a list of fighters that failed at lhw. name for name, pretty much all of them did.

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franklin is...well...he achieved a lot. belforts legit. silva got out of his way at the start. the maia comment is mystique talking. cicular arguments about greatness explaining something typically ridiculed. bet you think he was running a long game on chael just to troll him too.

mw has no great strikers. bisping is literally up there. mma does tho, in other divisions.
Regards the Sonnen fight... no. No fecking way he played a game. Im not an idiot. When Silva threw, he was trying his absolute damnedest to knock Sonnen out. People who think he planned that fight are being romantic... which is also good. But me? Nope. Still... to take that beating and sub the dude so late... wow. That is what a champion is made of brother. Name me one other champion that has come back from that kind of domination and won. Just one. The last fight I can think of was GSP getting blitzed by Penn for 1 round before taking over and crushing him. That is nothing like getting grinded by Sonnen for 22 minutes. Silva is the man, and absolutely nothing you or anybody else says will do anything about it. Period.

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Regards the Sonnen fight... no. No fecking way he played a game. Im not an idiot. When Silva threw, he was trying his absolute damnedest to knock Sonnen out. People who think he planned that fight are being romantic... which is also good. But me? Nope. Still... to take that beating and sub the dude so late... wow. That is what a champion is made of brother. Name me one other champion that has come back from that kind of domination and won. Just one. The last fight I can think of was GSP getting blitzed by Penn for 1 round before taking over and crushing him. That is nothing like getting grinded by Sonnen for 22 minutes. Silva is the man, and absolutely nothing you or anybody else says will do anything about it. Period.

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fedor did it a few times against guys who realistically dont need 5 rounds and dont have more losses than finishes. edgar did a few things too. shogun beat the hell outta hendo in his "loss".

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franklin is...well...he achieved a lot. belforts legit. silva got out of his way at the start. the maia comment is mystique talking. cicular arguments about greatness explaining something typically ridiculed. bet you think he was running a long game on chael just to troll him too.

mw has no great strikers. bisping is literally up there. mma does tho, in other divisions.

the mw top 10 is a list of fighters that failed at lhw. name for name, pretty much all of them did.
Not sure if trolling or just a Silva hater, I will bet on the latter. How you are even putting Silva's and JBJ's striking in the same stylistic category is beyond me. Striking wise Silva is the best in the game, JBJ is good no doubt but his strength is in his versatility more so than boxing technique.

And Silva has faced no good strikers? You might want to look over his record. He completely tooled ALL of the strikers hes faced so far, Vitor/Franklin x2/Griffin/Marquardt/Irvin. Give me a break, look how many guys he has made LEAVE the division because they cant beat him.
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fedor did it a few times against guys who realistically dont need 5 rounds and dont have more losses than finishes.

have fun on fapdu. please tell me its porn and not highlight videos lol. edgar did a few things too. shogun beat the hell outta hendo in his "loss".
All great fights. But dude... you saw the Sonnen fight, right? Taking that shit for 22 minutes is knob shrivelling stuff. Edgar had a bad first round, just like the GSP example. They came back. But 4 and a half rounds of grind is hardcore. Im not even considering Sonnens gorilla testosterone or the rib thing.

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All great fights. But dude... you saw the Sonnen fight, right? Taking that shit for 22 minutes is knob shrivelling stuff. Edgar had a bad first round, just like the GSP example. They came back. But 4 and a half rounds of grind is hardcore. Im not even considering Sonnens gorilla testosterone or the rib thing.

Highlight videos featuring black bald lanky Jedi warriors *is* porn, bro.
it was a spectacular finish against a guy with more losses than finishes...

also, your post made me think of that one dude on the porn stars section who stands out because hes a fkn black dude on a page full of chicks.

you know who i mean...



lol...that dude.

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As for the poll, theres a reason the Diaz bros hold no titles and Im not thinking its because they have better striking than Silva lol. Too little head movement from the Diaz bros, footwork lacking as well. Silva is the most elusive and most accurate striker in the UFC. How did JBJ get paired up with Silva anyways? Because I see very few similarities between JBJ and Silvas striking.
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it was a spectacular finish against a guy with more losses than finishes...

also, your post made me think of that one dude on the porn stars section who stands out because hes a fkn black dude on a page full of chicks.

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lol...that dude.
All that matters to me, is recent form... not history. Sonnen had just crushed Marquart and Okami is dominating fashion. He then did to Silva what no other fighter has yet managed. So now you are downplaying Sonnens ability's to try and make a point? Come on now bro. Be sensible. Sonnen is a hardcore fight for anybody at MW and most LHW's as well.

This is insane. How can anybody downplay Silva achievements? If you try, then please apply some context. Who are all these other legendary fighters who have achieved as much? Its all very well picking holes in a fighters career, but apply the same critique to other fighters as well.
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