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View Poll Results: anderson silva/jj striking v diaz brothers striking Post a Poll
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silva and jj 8 point would win
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diaz bros relentless blitzing would prevail
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05-18-2012, 05:25 AM
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#21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Soojooko
All that matters to me, is recent form... not history. Sonnen had just crushed Marquart and Okami is dominating fashion. He then did to Silva what no other fighter has yet managed. So now you are downplaying Sonnens ability's to try and make a point? Come on now bro. Be sensible. Sonnen is a hardcore fight for anybody at MW and most LHW's as well.
This is insane. How can anybody downplay Silva achievements? If you try, then please apply some context. Who are all these other legendary fighters who have achieved as much? Its all very well picking holes in a fighters career, but apply the same critique to other fighters as well.
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dude. more losses than finishes. jeremy horns got a hatrick on him. terry martin tkod him...fedor and gsp simply beat better guys, lost to better guys and have spent their peak years unbeaten. also they fought legit prime atgs. silvas best wins are old belfort and post pride hendo.
where are the atg strikers on his record? paul daley and cerrone are better pure strikers than almost anyone on that list. even arlovski alone > silvas whole vic list in striking terms.
Last edited by lolwut : 05-18-2012 at 05:28 AM.
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05-18-2012, 05:27 AM
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#22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Soojooko
This is insane. How can anybody downplay Silva achievements? If you try, then please apply some context. Who are all these other legendary fighters who have achieved as much? Its all very well picking holes in a fighters career, but apply the same critique to other fighters as well.
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Exactly, Im fairly certain this is just an old Fedor groupie making the rounds and trying to once again convince people that everyone in the UFC sucks.
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05-18-2012, 05:32 AM
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#23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mmats
Exactly, Im fairly certain this is just an old Fedor groupie making the rounds and trying to once again convince people that everyone in the UFC sucks.
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how the fck you can claim to love mma and hate fedor, i dont know. we dont have to worship silva to watch ufc tho. getting personal with strangers on the internet just proves youre an idiot.
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05-18-2012, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lolwut
dude. more losses than finishes. jeremy horns got a hatrick on him. terry martin tkod him...fedor and gsp simply beat better guys, lost to better guys and have spent their peak years unbeaten. also they fought legit prime atgs. silvas best wins are old belfort and post pride hendo.
where are the atg strikers on his record? paul daley and cerrone are better pure strikers than almost anyone on that list. even arlovski alone > silvas whole vic list in striking terms.
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Seriously, this is the argument? That Silva's striking sucks and all his opponents were easy? I recommend you hold a press conference right away to let everyone know of these brilliant findings. Im sure M-1 Global will be happy to host it.
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Originally Posted by lolwut
how the fck you can claim to love mma and hate fedor, i dont know. we dont have to worship silva to watch ufc tho. getting personal with strangers on the internet just proves youre an idiot.
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Hate fedor? Sorry not even close. I do however acknowledge reality.
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05-18-2012, 05:51 AM
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#25 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by lolwut
dude. more losses than finishes. jeremy horns got a hatrick on him. terry martin tkod him...fedor and gsp simply beat better guys, lost to better guys and have spent their peak years unbeaten. also they fought legit prime atgs. silvas best wins are old belfort and post pride hendo.
where are the atg strikers on his record? paul daley and cerrone are better pure strikers than almost anyone on that list. even arlovski alone > silvas whole vic list in striking terms.
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Whatever makes you happy bro.
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05-18-2012, 09:45 AM
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Here is the thing, Nick Diaz gets hit a lot because defensively he sucks. Anderson Silva is the probably the best in the business at not getting hit and also one of the best at knocking people out. How do you think this plays out? Anderson would toy with Nick especially when you consider that Nick would not enjoy his usual reach advantage. The thing is to that Anderson and Jones are more versatile and are more dangerous at a variety of angles and ranges where the Diaz brothers ussually employ a reach advantage and keep there opponents at Diaz range.
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05-18-2012, 10:00 AM
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#27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Toxic
Here is the thing, Nick Diaz gets hit a lot because defensively he sucks. Anderson Silva is the probably the best in the business at not getting hit and also one of the best at knocking people out. How do you think this plays out? Anderson would toy with Nick especially when you consider that Nick would not enjoy his usual reach advantage. The thing is to that Anderson and Jones are more versatile and are more dangerous at a variety of angles and ranges where the Diaz brothers ussually employ a reach advantage and keep there opponents at Diaz range.
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i disagree in the wording here. Diaz' defence doesn't suck, it doesn't exist and that's part of his style. that's how he opens people up and he's got the chin and stones to get away w/it. and if attack is the best form of defence i think Nick has awesome defence. (not a very serious last comment)
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05-18-2012, 10:17 AM
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Anderson Silva is ahead of all of them by miles....
The Diaz Brother are really just Boxers with unique styles for MMA...
Jon Jones has that 84inch reach to make other fighters look silly. Plus he will throw almost the kitchen sink at you....
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05-18-2012, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Soojooko
Are Jones and Silva really comparable? Not in a million years.
Has Bones ever slipped a punch?
I understand, that they are both mainly distance fighters, but come on now. I don't think ive ever seen Silva move backwards like Bones. If you pressure Bones, he runs. If you pressure Anderson, your likely to get knocked out.
Basically, Anderson can eat Diaz style for breakfast. Bones would simply run away from it.
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This. Jones neednt be included in this conversation. He can beat great strikers, but not because he has great striking and certainly not because he's anything like Anderson Silva.
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05-18-2012, 11:04 AM
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Does anyone actually think Diaz could land a single punch on Silva? I sure as hell don't. Silva would clown Diaz worse than he did Griffin.
Their style is almost perfect for Silva to counter. They throw high volume pitter patter shots and they use nothing but their hands. Silva would be like a kid in a candy shop.
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