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silva and jj 8 point would win 24 88.89%
diaz bros relentless blitzing would prevail 3 11.11%
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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SILVA/JONES striking v DIAZ BROS striking

both pairs employ great mma bjj as a safety net. all have reasonable defensive wrestling with jj obviously standing out. silva and jones are 8 point strikers that own the space around their opponents and then progressively cascade their world into oblivion. the diaz bros are primarily punchers who quickly pace their opponents and then blitz them non stop.

these styles are interesting counter points. both rely on elite attributes and skilsets. which is best. which is harder to pick, and who wins if they ever faced off in the same division?




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Old 05-18-2012, 01:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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really good question, hard to give an answer as we have never seen these styles collide.. the size difference may make a big difference in the ability to use the diaz style effectively...

i consider aldo to have a similar style to AS JBJ and he does very well with it so maybe we need to see nate vs aldo to even have a vague understanding of this comparison

the closest thing we really have to this is the condit vs diaz fight and the cerrone vs diaz fight... with two very different results

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really good question, hard to give an answer as we have never seen these styles collide.. the size difference may make a big difference in the ability to use the diaz style effectively...

i consider aldo to have a similar style to AS JBJ and he does very well with it so maybe we need to see nate vs aldo to even have a vague understanding of this comparison

the closest thing we really have to this is the condit vs diaz fight and the cerrone vs diaz fight... with two very different results
imo the crux is the distance and time necessary for silvas style to work. he needs time and distance to read his opponent. although the diaz brothers also typically do this, they live to harass and discomfort their opponent opening up a volume deficit. silva and jones kill through accuracy rather than volume.

this battle depends on the silva style fighter being able to create distance through pain or ktfo.
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Silva is ahead by miles. He has better defense, power, and more versatility.

As far as Silva needing time to gauge his opponent, that's not always true. Quite a few people have come charging at him and they got KO'd.
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Silva is ahead by miles. He has better defense, power, and more versatility.

As far as Silva needing time to gauge his opponent, that's not always true. Quite a few people have come charging at him and they got KO'd.
8 second knock outs are pathologically plan b for silva. they got ktfo because he had already read them or he got lucky on the counter. his plan is always similar. space, pace, accuracy.
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Anderson is the best striker in MMA history for a reason. Someone like Nick who comes full steam ahead against a counter-striker like Silva would result in Nick being KO'd. His chin might be as good as it gets but he has never faced someone like Silva, because there is only one.
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Anderson Silva and JBJ would definitely win. People here know that I am a major Diaz bros fan but as great as their boxing, chin and heart is, when it comes down to it they have less tools striking wise than the other two mentioned.

Not only that but you are comparing them to one that is arguably the best ever striker (MMA of course) and #1 P4P in Anderson Silva. That's not even talking JBJ who has beat 4 former champs in a little more than a year and has dominated everyone he has faced thus far, and is STILL learning (which is crazy).

Stylistically, AS is a nightmare for either one. His accuracy and power along with timing, footwork, distance understanding, and full arsenal of strikes and rock hard chin makes this a long fight.

Diaz bros are great fighters - Anderson Silva and JBJ (soon to be I am sure) are HOF fighters.
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Are Jones and Silva really comparable? Not in a million years.

Has Bones ever slipped a punch?

I understand, that they are both mainly distance fighters, but come on now. I don't think ive ever seen Silva move backwards like Bones. If you pressure Bones, he runs. If you pressure Anderson, your likely to get knocked out.

Basically, Anderson can eat Diaz style for breakfast. Bones would simply run away from it.
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Silva is much more accurate and powerful. It seems like Anderson toys with his opponents then finishes them. Nick doesn't have the power or evasiveness of Silva. (I had more to say but I forgot midway through typing) Time to cash obviously.
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This thread is not about Silva/Jones vs Diaz, this is about comparing styles.

I think given the same reach and size the Diaz style will always win if the fight happens in a boxing ring. In the octagon there's much more space to circle so guys would just try to do what Condit did and circle and circle and circle. Pretty much a toss up.
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