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Old 06-01-2012, 03:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I understand why Shogun wouldn't want to take the fight. Glover is still unknown to a lot of casual fans, but he still has a lot of skills to give Shogun potential problems. In a nutshell, he's a nightmare for any top 5-10 guy who wants big names. It's almost like your fighting a can in casual fan's eyes that might hand you your ass, and if you win in a tough fight, no one is going to care even though you just beat an extremely solid opponent.

Ranking wise, Shogun can't complain. Silva has been going down hill and has been inactive a lot, so Glover is actually ahead of Silva in the rankings. Silva just has a lot more name value which ultimately should be what a fighter is after if they want to sell themselves. In my personal opinion, I think that Glover would beat Thiago Silva decisively and I'd enjoy watching that fight, so I'm sure Shogun's camp isn't trying to insult Glover or anything.

Props to Teixeira because of him looking for tough fights. He's obviously in a hurry to become a contender and it's nice to see he's not ducking anyone along the way. It would actually be cool to see him fight Shogun in more ways than one. Such as possibly wanting to avenge his friend's loss. They could hype him up as Chuck Liddell's protege wanting revenge. Kind of a stretch, but I can't say I wouldn't be excited.
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the fact that he isnt a big name and there is basically little motivation to accept the fight.
That's your issue. Glover has some big power and looks pretty impressive, but he still has no name. Shogun has nothing to gain and everything to lose in this fight


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One word, Gustafsson. He and Shogun are two of my favourite fighters but I would love to see them go at it.

I was initially surprised at the idea that Shogun turned down a fight, but it does make sense. Word is that he's on very good form in training and coming off fight of the year with the current title challenger, fighting Glover is understandably not appealing to him. I think he'd accept fights with Gustaf and Evans, either one is a great match and makes more sense in the rankings.

Not sure why Dana is putting so much pressure on him to take the Glover fight, I hope this is sorted soon and Rua stays on the card.
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Here are my top replacements.

1.) Gustaf
2.) Lil Nog
3.) Davis

Now if Shogun took Glover and took him out viciously I think that would put the LHW immediately on notice. But is the reward worth the risks. He loses to Glover and his stock will plummet like the Facebook stock!
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One word, Gustafsson. He and Shogun are two of my favourite fighters but I would love to see them go at it.

I was initially surprised at the idea that Shogun turned down a fight, but it does make sense. Word is that he's on very good form in training and coming off fight of the year with the current title challenger, fighting Glover is understandably not appealing to him. I think he'd accept fights with Gustaf and Evans, either one is a great match and makes more sense in the rankings.

Not sure why Dana is putting so much pressure on him to take the Glover fight, I hope this is sorted soon and Rua stays on the card.
Dana is trying to push up and comers through the ranking for Jones other wise the devision is stuck. Using big names for up and comers is smart and if glover was to win then he would only be 1 fight away from title shot and jones has challengers. Problem is when fighters start to think there to good for fighters like glover then the devision is in trouble.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:44 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The Hype Joe Rogan made about the guy his last fight probably has Shoguns camp a little spooked. Add in the fact that he isnt a big name and there is basically little motivation to accept the fight. Ofcourse not wanting to accept this fight while Dana White is trying to make it happen will probably get him a pay bonus incentive to take it.
Do you really think Shogun and his team need Rogan to tell then who Teixeira is?
He's been "killing" people left and right in Brazil,
i'm sure they know how good that man is and how likely a loss against him is.
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Fellow MMAFORUM members what would YOU do if you were Shogun and what would YOU do if you were his manager.

I highly doubt Shogun is afraid of anybody...period. From a managerial and career standpoint what does Shogun have to gain from fighting a rookie... Glover should be fighting Gustaf, The Janitor, The Hippo...not a fricken bonafide legend at this stage of his career.

Damn right they refused cuz Glover is dangerous and there's NO UPSIDES to this fight other than money. I think it's an embarassment the UFC even offered it. Having the accolades (Pride/UFC LHW, Grand prix champ) and history Shogun or any legend has should hold some value.

I want to see Shogun vs Rampage x 2, Thiago Silva, Rashad, Lil Nog x 2, Hendo x 2, not a rookie man...not until Glover proves himself worthy.
Glover would probably beat him, that's why he doesn't want to fight him.


I lost a bit of respect for Shogun on this, this is the type of shameful ducking you see in boxing.
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Thiago Silva suffered an injury and is out of UFC 149 event scheduled to take place in July in Canada, UFC and working to get a new opponent for Shogun.*

In an interview with MMAJunkie, the organization's president, Dana White revealed that the team turned down a fight against Shogun Glover Teixeira athlete who debuted last Saturday with victory over Kyle Kingsbury, but they have not given up this fight to marry .*

"We asked for Glover if he would accept this fight with Shogun, but Shogun's staff is refusing this fight. They want nothing to do with the Glover, "said the hat.*

Shogun, a former champion of the class comes from defeat in the epic struggle against Dan Henderson, while Glover has just made its debut in the category.

"But this is the struggle that I and we are trying to marry Lorenzo," added the president.*

Wanted by the tatami, Shogun's manager, Julio Heller, said that has not received any official statement from the UFC.*

"I read this issue and am waiting for the official position of the UFC. This (denying the fight with Glover) is unfounded. We are awaiting confirmation of the injured Thiago to see the options we have," said the manager.*

Asked if he would accept the duel x Shogun Glover, manager preferred to wait for confirmation of the UFC and said he will discuss the possibilities with the fighter and his trainer, Andre Dida, before taking any decision.*

The main event of UFC 149 will be between Aldo and Erik Koch, the belt of featherweights.
Dana, recently confessed to lying to Faber, may be blowing some hot air in our direction right now, I'm waiting for more info.

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Old 06-01-2012, 06:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I also think Rua is ducking.

Beating Teixeira carries no less prestige then beating Thiago Silva, so I'm not buying the idea that Tex doesn't deserve the fight.
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