Originally Posted by Roflcopter
Well maybe one can consider themselves a fan if they watch a bunch of high profile UFC PPVs for years....however that really wasn't the demographic I was speaking of.
Mainly because the former demographic fails to realize that guys like Rampage and Forrest and Shogun are barely relevant fighters anymore and will have to fight to EARN their spots as relevant contenders. Shogun can do precisely that by beating a dangerous, hungry fighter who stylistically should give him a ton of problems...
Instead of just giving him retreaded fights between the same fighters that keep consistently losing fights like Machida, Rampage and whoever.
Secondly, Gustaffson isn't available, but there's really nothing about this guy that makes him that much better than Teixeria...just 2 years ago the dude got steamrolled by a fringe top 10 one dimensional wrestler in Phil Davis...who was equally green by the way.
Texieria is polished and in the prime of his career right now and poised to make a title run. True fans have realized that this guy was arguably the best fighter not in the UFC above 170lbs...
By all means, show me how this so called legend does again a guy who is undefeated in 7 years...who has finished 14 of his 18 victims in the first round, including a palette of UFC vets and fighters....a guy who has stopped JDS conqueror Joaqim Ferriera and Mir conqueror Pe De Pano on the Brazilian circuit at HW. A guy who consistently shown world class boxing skills and has not only knocked out 11 men, but has separated himself from the one dimensional mooks of the division by showing off his legitimate BJJ black belt skills and showing excellent finishing skills on the ground with his submissions.
It will certainly tell me a lot more than a third fight with a guy he already beat twice...or a probable decision loss to a guy like Rashad.
You were saying something about Shogun not really being relevant since 05? So are we going down the road of 'Glover being undefeated in 7 years'? This sounds like a Hector Lombard scenario really.
-Middleweight GP Winner
-Former UFC 205lb Champ
-Overeem x2 (before Alistair gained ridiculous mass)
-Machida (most people had him winning the first fight in what seemed to be a controversial decision)
-Forrest (lost debut fight)
This resume in itself shows that he is relevant and faces the best competition. He had an extremely close decision loss to Henderson, got blasted by Jones... The first fight with Forrest he lost convincingly, then got robbed IMO against Machida in fight #1
Glover is a great fighter, don't get me wrong... but his only notable wins are Cruz, Ferreira and Sokoudjou (he beat Ferreira)...but is incredibly inconsistent.
The point i'm making is I don't mind Shogun fighting Glover because I think he'll beat him. However, I don't see it doing anything to boost rankings towards a title shot. Shoguns losses were to title holders of UFC or Strikeforce (fomer and current holders). Glover beat Kingsbury and has a 7 year unbeaten streak which is padded with a few good wins and a bunch from no names or guys that did nothing in their respective divisions.