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View Poll Results: Do you agree with Bigfoot's mgr on this one... ban elbow strikes on the ground?
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post #11 of 43 (permalink) Old 06-01-2012, 06:36 PM
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I'm fine with banning elbows or having them. Both sides of the argument are pretty equal in positives and negatives. I'm pretty sure Strikeforce doesn't allow grounded elbows and I hardly even notice the difference.

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Blood has never dettered anyone from watching combat, this dude is a loon.

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To add a poll on this subject to the 1st post would be interesting.

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I don't know about some of you but I sort of prefer blood over KO's. I mean if it wasn't for blood how would we not know Diego Sanchez is the type of SOB that will fight with his face hanging off his skull.
Blood doesn't necessarily tell you a lot. It only needs a small amount of blood that gets distributed over the face to let it look like out of a slaughterhouse. So blood makes it easily look brutal while it's not a real indicator if it really is. Cuts usually are only superficial injuries and only dangerous if you get an infection. I once had a cut (not Sanchez size) where I didn't even feel the strike that caused it and only got aware of it when the blood dropping down started to mess up my shirt.
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To add a poll on this subject to the 1st post would be interesting.
I'll do it, and the first vote unless someone beats me will be keep 'em! I liked Pride without them, but if they are taking away elbows without adding things the UFC were missing compared to Pride they would just be getting tamer and lamer.



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I'm fine with banning elbows or having them. Both sides of the argument are pretty equal in positives and negatives. I'm pretty sure Strikeforce doesn't allow grounded elbows and I hardly even notice the difference.
I think Melendez stopped Kawajiri with elbows on the ground.


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MMA needs less rules, not more.

I'd love to see knees to the head and stomps back and added to the unified rules.

The only thing I don't want is soccer kicks, because they have a strong tendency to leave the other guy laying there for a long time....a lot of the nastiest KO's I've ever seen could've been avoided if there were no soccer kicks in Brasil and Japan...

That's the one compromise that I feel is necessary to mix in safety while still retaining the essence of combat and the sport's Vale Tudo roots.

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I think Melendez stopped Kawajiri with elbows on the ground.
You're right. Looks like elbows have been allowed since Zuffa purchased Strikeforce.

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MMA needs less rules, not more.

I'd love to see knees to the head and stomps back and added to the unified rules.

The only thing I don't want is soccer kicks, because they have a strong tendency to leave the other guy laying there for a long time....a lot of the nastiest KO's I've ever seen could've been avoided if there were no soccer kicks in Brasil and Japan...

That's the one compromise that I feel is necessary to mix in safety while still retaining the essence of combat and the sport's Vale Tudo roots.
The problem with knees is, the nature of them means a fighter can pretty much drive his entire body weight into a knee drop straight to the head. That's bad enough as it is, but with it being on the ground the guys's head will have nowhere to go so will just get crushed between the knee and the mat.

I could see skull fractures occurring with that sort of impact, and that's too violent.
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