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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-01-2012, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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Wild Speculation about all the recent injuries.

My boy and I was talking and I don't pretend to know anything about all PED's and TRT talk. But my friend, who at times has been known to BS, thinks that may be the cause. He thinks that since the crack down or rather the big spotlight on the abuse of these substances and treatments, that fighters are NOT doing it as much or at all. This from fear of getting caught. So as a result the body is not able to go through to type of training they may have been able to get through in the past with some "assistance".

I think it has nothing to do with it but figured I would pose the question to you all since alot of people here tend to get into that kind of talk.

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Anabolic Steroids do not strengthen bones, MCLs, ACLs, ect. They help Muscles recover. Steroids can actually lead to some injuries because of the very fact. Muscles get stronger before the tendons and ligaments have time to catch up, causing injury. I speak from experience on the latter.

Nothing to do with it.

I think fighters are now more inclined to pull out of a fight since the UFC covers injuries received in training now. Before, a fighter would have to press through many of them just to be able to afford the medical bills. That is no longer the case.
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Anabolic Steroids do not strengthen bones, MCLs, ACLs, ect. They help Muscles recover. Steroids can actually lead to some injuries because of the very fact. Muscles get stronger before the tendons and ligaments have time to catch up, causing injury. I speak from experience on the latter.

Nothing to do with it.

I think fighters are now more inclined to pull out of a fight since the UFC covers injuries received in training now. Before, a fighter would have to press through many of them just to be able to afford the medical bills. That is no longer the case.
That's well seen. Never has thought of that before but it may very well be a/ one of the reasons for it.

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This is Thiago's four or fifth pull out due to injury, I could see it being a cycle/steroid thing.
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Anabolic Steroids do not strengthen bones, MCLs, ACLs, ect. They help Muscles recover. Steroids can actually lead to some injuries because of the very fact. Muscles get stronger before the tendons and ligaments have time to catch up, causing injury. I speak from experience on the latter.

Nothing to do with it.

I think fighters are now more inclined to pull out of a fight since the UFC covers injuries received in training now. Before, a fighter would have to press through many of them just to be able to afford the medical bills. That is no longer the case.
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This is called a conspiracy.

No.
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Anabolic Steroids do not strengthen bones, MCLs, ACLs, ect. They help Muscles recover. Steroids can actually lead to some injuries because of the very fact. Muscles get stronger before the tendons and ligaments have time to catch up, causing injury. I speak from experience on the latter.

Nothing to do with it.

I think fighters are now more inclined to pull out of a fight since the UFC covers injuries received in training now. Before, a fighter would have to press through many of them just to be able to afford the medical bills. That is no longer the case.
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Anabolic Steroids do not strengthen bones, MCLs, ACLs, ect.They help Muscles recover. Steroids can actually lead to some injuries because of the very fact. Muscles get stronger before the tendons and ligaments have time to catch up, causing injury. I speak from experience on the latter.

Nothing to do with it.

I think fighters are now more inclined to pull out of a fight since the UFC covers injuries received in training now. Before, a fighter would have to press through many of them just to be able to afford the medical bills. That is no longer the case.
Testosterone is essential for bone and cartilage growth/regeneration.

I agree with everything else. It never occurred to me that fighter might pull out of a fight because of an injury he might be able to fight through. It makes sense that some fighters would do that.




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Testosterone is essential for bone and cartilage growth/regeneration.

I agree with everything else. It never occurred to me that fighter might pull out of a fight because of an injury he might be able to fight through. It makes sense that some fighters would do that.
It certainly plays a role. But, how much testosterone do you think Females have in them? They also have bone/cartilage growth and regeneration. Growth Hormone plays the bigger role.

When on Anabolic Steroids, such as Testosterone Enanthate the muscles do indeed repair and grow much stronger and faster then the ligaments and tendons. The connective tissue. This leads to many injuries. Often those injuries are not as pronounced until one comes off the steroid cycle. It is during those times when one realizes they have done some damage.

This is not the definitive answer by any means, but it is indeed, a very real and common effect.
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It certainly plays a role. But, how much testosterone do you think Females have in them? They also have bone/cartilage growth and regeneration. Growth Hormone plays the bigger role.

When on Anabolic Steroids, such as Testosterone Enanthate the muscles do indeed repair and grow much stronger and faster then the ligaments and tendons. The connective tissue. This leads to many injuries. Often those injuries are not as pronounced until one comes off the steroid cycle. It is during those times when one realizes they have done some damage.

This is not the definitive answer by any means, but it is indeed, a very real and common effect.
Enough to make sure all the mechanisms of muscle and bone growth are still working and too little to make them grow testicles.




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