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post #31 of 37 (permalink) Old 06-10-2012, 02:58 AM
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GSP is gone for a year and everyone forgets how incredible he is. I love Erick but GSP would definitely outstrike him and take him down at will.


But not to say he wont have a fantastic career. Lots of guys at WW are stars despite being the #2 or lower.
I disagree that GSP would out strike him. GSP has very diverse striking and mixes it up well, but he doesn't have the same kind of speed or power in his striking as Silva imo. GSP would probably take him down though and that may be what determines the outcome of the fight if it ever happens.

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I disagree that GSP would out strike him. GSP has very diverse striking and mixes it up well, but he doesn't have the same kind of speed or power in his striking as Silva imo. GSP would probably take him down though and that may be what determines the outcome of the fight if it ever happens.
I think GSP outstrikes him whenever the fight is on the feet. Once he establishes his takedowns, his opponents really seem to be really hesitant to pull the trigger. He did it to Penn in their second fight and Alves who are both arguably better pure strikers that GSP.


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mm so is it just me or did it look a little too easy for Erick to get his hooks in and then finish the choke? It seemed that Charlie just let it happen.







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mm so is it just me or did it look a little too easy for Erick to get his hooks in and then finish the choke? It seemed that Charlie just let it happen.
Brenneman was too concerned with Silva's hands/arms being around his neck. When Silva hooked in, Brenneman shortly let his left hand go from Silva's hands to grab Silva's foot in order to unhook it, but that gave Silva the opportunity to sink his choke in further. Brenneman got aware of that on the way, let the foot go to reach for Silva's hands again which gave Silva the opportunity to flat him out. At that point the fight was pretty much lost.

Before Silva hooked in, Brenneman should have turned towards Silva. Chances were there that he could have landed on top in Silva's guard, but he is too much of a wrestler and still lacks the grappling instinct.
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Yeah Charlie was more worried about Silva's hands, what I've taken from this fight is that Erick is no joke on the ground. He set the choke up nicely, did everything at the right time.

I don't know if the punch landed, but I think the punch Silva threw as they went to the ground may have rocked Charlie. Charlie should have been trying to roll or turn and get Erick in his guard, he was just face down on his knees trying to stop Erick's hands, didn't try to explode or anything.

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Yeah Charlie was more worried about Silva's hands, what I've taken from this fight is that Erick is no joke on the ground. He set the choke up nicely, did everything at the right time.

I don't know if the punch landed, but I think the punch Silva threw as they went to the ground may have rocked Charlie. Charlie should have been trying to roll or turn and get Erick in his guard, he was just face down on his knees trying to stop Erick's hands, didn't try to explode or anything.
Silva definitely landed some strikes that had an impact on Brenneman. The latter had a nice black mouse under his left eye by the end of the fight. Silva caught him with a couple of uppercuts, landed at least one knee to the face and a couple of them to the body when Brenneman shot in for the takedown. The last spinning back kick may have hit the liver. Those shots often show a little delay in their effect. It may have taken quite some energy out of Brenneman, so he rather tried to turtle up and recover instead of grapple fight with Silva. That and as I said his lacking grapple instinct.
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I think GSP outstrikes him whenever the fight is on the feet. Once he establishes his takedowns, his opponents really seem to be really hesitant to pull the trigger. He did it to Penn in their second fight and Alves who are both arguably better pure strikers that GSP.
Ya you're right, but Alves doesn't have the best TTD. BJ has phenomenal TDD, but it is based more on his pure flexibility and balance on one foot, which wears over time. Silva's TDD is based more on the sprawl and he also hip escapes beautifully when you do get him down.

When you get BJ down he is able to use rubber guard well, but rarely does he hip escape or get a reversal unless your name is Matt Hughes.

I like Erick's chances in the fight and think his striking is more effective than GSP's.

Shields has absolutely horrible hands and very rudimentary striking imo and he was able to hang with GSP. A guy like Silva with that power and speed with great take down defense, BJJ and athleticism would be a tough fight for anyone including GSP.

The only downside to him is his size imo. By no means is he small, but bigger guy's like GSP, Fitch and Alves make him look small for the division.

Luckily, skill is far more important than size in the fight game.

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