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Old 06-06-2012, 01:54 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I like Rory more than BJ...


But what happened to the BJ who went 5 rounds with Kenflo in a pretty high paced fight? The one who brutalized Diego Sanchez? He had no cardio issues there. I would love to see that BJ versus Rory. It would be a hell of a fight.
He was allowed to fight his type of fights there. He controlled those fights so he didn't gas out but it's mostly in fights where he grapples or against Diaz where it was such a high pace then he struggles.

Also, he was working with the Marinovich's for those fights.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:58 PM   #42 (permalink)
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If BJ wants to fight and wants to train I don't think there is a fighter not named GSP in the WW or LW division that can beat him. Rory is a great fighter but he is not a specialist in anything and BJ is a beast no matter where the fight goes.
I agree with you......but those two levels of desire have been painfully fleeting in BJ the past few years. I also feel that the in many aspects the sport has passed him. he hasn't kept up to speed with the young guys in terms of training, multiple techniques, and being multi-faceted.
he can be a force to be reckoned with if he's motivated. Id don't think he's been motivated except for the Fitch fight in a number of years.

Just my two pennies.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:59 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I love BJ...Dude is just a warrior This is why he is always gonna be one of my fav. fighters. The dude likes challenges.

With that being said...Rory Mac is a freakin cyborg. I just hope BJ can get out of RD 1 with his brain still intact... Rory is the future champ of 170 and 185 IMO...
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:18 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Well I know one thing for sure BJ will beat the shit out of him in the first.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:27 PM   #45 (permalink)
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So Rory is going to be a goof just like GSP...is this what I am seeing?

I think an in shape focused BJ would be a very good fight. But lets not kid ourselves into thinking it will happen. BJ will be fat and gas in 2 rounds like he has been.

Rory is a young said to be "future" of the division. And he is calling out old washed up out of shape BJ Penn who belongs at 155 while Rory could potentially make 185 in the future.

Lets call out BJ Penn at this stage of his career to get a name on the record. What a pansy. Go call out Kos, Fitch, Hendricks, Erik Silva. Go call out someone who isn't semi-retired.

Sick of fighters who call out old names of the sport just to get a name on their record. Knowing full well they are a shell of their former self. It is a coward move.

Pathetic.

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Old 06-06-2012, 02:29 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I guess i'm that 5% who doesn't really care that much for Penn? He never clicked on me..
I never have found myself cheering for him either. This fight should make you happy then, another decisive loss for BJ.
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So Rory is going to be a goof just like GSP...is this what I am seeing?

I think an in shape focused BJ would be a very good fight. But lets not kid ourselves into thinking it will happen. BJ will be fat and gas in 2 rounds like he has been.

Rory is a young said to be "future" of the division. And he is calling out old washed up out of shape BJ Penn who belongs at 155 while Rory could potentially make 185 in the future.

Lets call out BJ Penn at this stage of his career to get a name on the record. What a pansy. Go call out Kos, Fitch, Hendricks, Erik Silva. Go call out someone who isn't semi-retired.

Sick of fighters who call out old names of the sport just to get a name on their record. Knowing full well they are a shell of their former self. It is a coward move.

Pathetic.
I agree. Im not sure what Rory is trying to acomplish here. He has a lot more to lose then he has to gain. A win over BJ at this point is not going to advance him in the division that much and a loss to BJ at this point would be a big setback considering everyone thinks he is going to walk through BJ.
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Old 06-06-2012, 03:03 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I agree. Im not sure what Rory is trying to acomplish here. He has a lot more to lose then he has to gain. A win over BJ at this point is not going to advance him in the division that much and a loss to BJ at this point would be a big setback considering everyone thinks he is going to walk through BJ.
I wouldn't care if he wants to build himself slowly. And really there is no point of him asking for top guy if him and his brother Georges won't even fight.

But just don't call out semi-retired fighters who don't even belong at the weight class. Have some balls and call out another contender. Or at least a guy who is still 100% in the sport.

All he wants is the name on his record. There is no bad blood, it make no sense in the rankings of the divisoion as Rory is coming off wins and BJ is 0-1-1 in his last 2. Could possibly be 0-2-0. And the guy he is calling out hasn't had a fight in 8 months and was semi-retired.
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"Right now I feel there’s a guy that I want to fight before he leaves the sport and that’s B.J. Penn," he said on Monday's edition of The MMA Hour. "That’s a guy I really want to fight. I respect him a lot. He’s a legend and I think it’d be a really good matchup for me to have that fight in Toronto."

MacDonald made sure to note this was a respectful request and not a "call out" of a future Hall of Famer.
Why can't it just be as Rory stated? Maybe he really does just want to fight a guy he grew up watching before that guy shuts 'er down.

And he didn't call anyone out. He simply said he'd like to fight BJ- nothing wrong with that.

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Old 06-06-2012, 03:30 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Why can't it just be as Rory stated? Maybe he really does just want to fight a guy he grew up watching before that guy shuts 'er down.

And he didn't call anyone out. He simply said he'd like to fight BJ- nothing wrong with that.

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It is exactly what he said.

"I want to fight BJ before he leaves the sport"

So basically he wants to fight and beat BJ Penn at his lowest stages in his career. To get him on his record before Penn calls it quits.

It is exactly what he said. It is plain and simple. Some people may not give a shit. But I just get annoyed when young fighters call out old deteriorating fighters of the golden era.

It is just my opinion....but it is a coward move. Or it is at least the easy way to get known. If you want to be the best and test yourself...ask to fight legit guys who are winning. Not just a guy with a name.

It is clear as day as to what he is trying to do here. Would he be calling out Penn if he were the animal he was back in the day? My guess would be no.

Just like how Schaub beat CC and everyone was calling him the legend killer because they figured he'd beat Nog also. Thankfully Nog kicked his ass. But all him and the UFC were trying to do is build him up off of names that are no longer close to the top of their game.

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