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post #11 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-07-2012, 02:05 PM
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Can't remember the source, was either mma show or mma hour. In an interview talking about fighter pay, the individual talked about how a boxer starting their big-time pro career can get paid as little as $500 IF they win, but (for the most part) an up and coming UFC fighter making their debut is almost guaranteed $6,000 just to fight.


If you look at the distribution of money in a UFC card compared to a boxing card, the UFC is a lot less top-heavy than the boxers. Not everyone can make Mayweather money.
IMO, the UFC fighters are paid appropriately.
An entry level guy who makes it to the UFC will earn $6k-$8k per fight. If he fights 4 times per year, he could be grossing $32k/year. That's not great money, but it's all about perpective.
I mean, I was just watched the season finale of Most Dangerous Catch (or whatever it's called ).
Those dudes are fishing for crab on the Bering Sea for days on end without sleep, in miserable/freezing/wet conditions, doing partically the most dangerous job in the world... and end up grossing around the same amount as that entry level fighter.
I don't know for sure, but I doubt they get danger pay, etc.

But in terms of the OP's point, I agree; the fighters could very well just be saying to themselves that they might as well take advantage of the coverage, and that could possibily explain what seems to be a higher-than-normal number of injury-related fight changes.

Of course, if that is the case, then I'm not sure how sound that reasoning is- specifically in a profession that rewards getting your brand out there almost as much as actually winning fights.
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post #12 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-07-2012, 03:29 PM
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". We're paid like entertainers when we should be paid like athletes. They want us hungry. They want us to be poor so they have more control over us.
I don't know what is more ridiculous the first line or the following two.

Professional fighting, like any sport, IS entertainment. I don't where this guy is coming from. Athletes are entertainers that is why people spend their money to watch, they are seeking entertainment.

The bit about keeping fighters poor and hungry is just silly. A few years ago on this board there seemed to be a 'fighters don't get paid enough' thread every few weeks. The UFC has gone out of its way to protect fighters and pay them well.

In the article the fighter says he's a mid tier fighter, so what is he you doing to get to a higher level? Yes it cost money to higher trainers, gym costs etc, but that can't be put on the UFC. They promote fighters who can then get sponsorship. I just don't get where this fighter is coming from. Work your way up the card, work towards bonuses, work towards sponsorship. No one, including the UFC, is holding this guy back.

Another misleading statement from the article:

"As a result of Zuffa's contractual restraints, athletes who compete in the UFC are denied the freedom of movement available to athletes in other professional sports"

Show me any other major, or even miner league sport, or entertainment entity that does not hamper contracted individuals freedom of movement? Companies/leagues don't put money into promotion just to have that individual walk to someone else.

The anti trust arguments are interesting I'll say that, but unless it can be proved that the UFC is somehow hampering new entrants to put on shows it will go no where. Putting on a better show in no way stops other potential companies/leagues from also trying to put on a better show.
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As far as the guys on Deadliest Catch, they make more than 32k/year. That's what they make during a 6-8 week run. Then they have months off and go back out. Captains and that I would assume bank far more than that. (Love that show).

Anyway, with regards to the fighters I do think the bottom rung guys make too little, as far as what we see they get paid. However, they all have sponsorship deals when they get into the UFC as well. The UFC is well aware that these deals will pay the fighters much more than if they were in a smaller organization, so being in the UFC affords fighters this type of perk. I have no idea if 'fighting mask' or any of these companies pay out $1000 to have their logo on your shorts or $5000 to entry level guys or what the deal is, so I can't really speculate too much on that side of it with any bit of credibility.
Part of the conspiracy theorist in me feels like some of these lesser known type guys might be more inclined to have a friend or acquaintance bet heavy on those fights where their opponents are +400-+600 underdogs. Have 50 guys bet 10k each, less suspicion that way, and walk away with 2-3M to split. A career in the ufc is awesome for some, to others a big payday like that could make anyone take a fall.

Anyway, this is not what the topic is about, my apologies for getting sidetracked. Also, my figures are completely arbitrary, someone fighting for peanuts in UFC may not have "50 investors" with 10k to lay down to fix a fight, but it's just an idea I always wonder if anyone has "taken advantage" of. I hope not, but feel naive to believe it hasn't.

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As far as the guys on Deadliest Catch, they make more than 32k/year. That's what they make during a 6-8 week run. Then they have months off and go back out. Captains and that I would assume bank far more than that. (Love that show).

Anyway, with regards to the fighters I do think the bottom rung guys make too little, as far as what we see they get paid. However, they all have sponsorship deals when they get into the UFC as well. The UFC is well aware that these deals will pay the fighters much more than if they were in a smaller organization, so being in the UFC affords fighters this type of perk. I have no idea if 'fighting mask' or any of these companies pay out $1000 to have their logo on your shorts or $5000 to entry level guys or what the deal is, so I can't really speculate too much on that side of it with any bit of credibility.
Part of the conspiracy theorist in me feels like some of these lesser known type guys might be more inclined to have a friend or acquaintance bet heavy on those fights where their opponents are +400-+600 underdogs. Have 50 guys bet 10k each, less suspicion that way, and walk away with 2-3M to split. A career in the ufc is awesome for some, to others a big payday like that could make anyone take a fall.

Anyway, this is not what the topic is about, my apologies for getting sidetracked. Also, my figures are completely arbitrary, someone fighting for peanuts in UFC may not have "50 investors" with 10k to lay down to fix a fight, but it's just an idea I always wonder if anyone has "taken advantage" of. I hope not, but feel naive to believe it hasn't.
Interesting points about the betting. It's happened in every sport and I'm sure it'll happen down the line with a ref, judge, trainer, or with a fighter. Did anybody read about Overeem's pay. There a lot of back door dealings that's not disclosed in the public to prevent others' from asking for the same arrangement. It's business.

I'd like to hear more fighters speak up about this though.

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