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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 06-08-2012, 04:16 PM Thread Starter
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Khalidov offered 20/20 deal by the UFC.

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Mamed Khalidov’s categorising of the UFC’s financial offer to him as “laughable” has caused heads to be scratched at Zuffa headquarters.

The KSW star was offered a four-fight deal by the UFC recently but made public comments about the financial terms being unacceptable to him. He is paid $30,000 per fight in Poland, plus sponsorship, and is slowly edging onto mainstream television chat shows and the like.

“If you look at the conditions for the first and second fight, they are not really acceptable. If they were decent then I would accept. I'm not saying that everyone knows who I am, but I'm not anonymous,” the Chechen-born fighter explains.

“Michael Bisping for one fight gets about $500,000 and is lower in the rankings. I understand that he is a star there and has taken time for the money. On the other hand I can not agree to humiliating terms.

“UFC expects spectacular fights… I have proved by fighting in EliteXC, in the US, in Japan, that I can fight this way (spectacular) and I do not think I need to prove it once again… I know that this is a business but if they do not see me as a player worth big money, it makes no sense to fight there.”

Fighters Only spoke to a source on the Zuffa side who said that Khalidov’s comments were puzzling considering that he was offered a $20,000/$20,000 deal. That means that his first fight, if he won it, would be worth $40,000. If he lost he would get $20,000 - less than his KSW rate but more than UFC newcomers who are unknown in the US.

Khalidov’s management supposedly told the UFC that his overall package had to be higher because the sponsors would not follow him from KSW to the UFC. “That was a strange thing to say,” said the source. “It equates to ‘please pay him more, because nobody wants to sponsor him’ - does that make your fighter sound more attractive or less attractive to a promoter?”

Khalidov has fought once before in North America, stopping Jason Guida in the second round of a 2008 ShoXC event. His remuneration for that fight was not revealed by the Indiana Athletic Commission but ShoXC generally never paid fighters over $10,000. However, the deal with ShoXC/EliteXC was non-exclusive.

He has lost only one of his nine bouts since the Guida win, but that loss was to Jorge Santiago. Former Sengoku champion Santiago struggled when he was twice in the UFC and was released from both contracts, and that isn’t impressive from the Zuffa side. They want to see Khalidov’s form before showering him with gold.

Khalidov’s most recent wins include Jesse Taylor, Matt Lindland and James Irvin - all name opponents, but nothing like the calibre to be found in the UFC middleweight division at present. “With all due respect to Khalidov his claim to be higher in the rankings than Michael Bisping is in itself laughable,” says the source. “Who has beaten really?”

As of now the offer is still on the table for Khalidov but Fighters Only has learned that the financial terms will not be altered. He can either accept the $20,000/$20,000 four-fight deal or elect to remain with KSW. For Khalidov the choice is problematical because the money and (mainstream) fame presently lies with the KSW side, but he badly wants to test himself in the MMA premier league and the longer he leaves it, the older he gets and so risks passing his peak.

Money can also go up substantially in the UFC with bonuses and spectacular performances. Khalidov fights for the finish and certainly has the potential to light the fans up, so he also has to calculate his chances of finishing the kind of opponents he would likely to be offered in his first appearance for the UFC.

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But if he wins the fights, the money soon goes up. Any fool knows that, does he lack confidence or something, afraid of the UFC?

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He really does belong in the UFC.

Ya know, its kinda dumb of him to refuse this deal

1) so what, he takes a slight pay cut. If he gets a good win in the US then his price tag will increase and US sponsors will jump on him

2) if he loses and gets cut he can go back to poland and i'm sure they'll still be all over his nuts there, including his sponsors when he returns.

3) this makes him look like a whiny primadonna. if he wants to prove himself in the big leagues, he needs to go to the UFC
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2) if he loses and gets cut he can go back to poland and i'm sure they'll still be all over his nuts there, including his sponsors when he returns.
I agree. They will love him even more because he will be labelled as a former UFC fighter.
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The way I see it, he feels like he needs to prove himself AGAIN, like all he had done so far is nothing. I mean, if you were doing anything for your career and everything you did basically gets put down to very little, and need to prove yourself, I'm sure you would be somewhat pissed about it. Just because this is the fight game makes it no different.

He feels he is getting disrespected by the UFC, that he needs to prove himself yet again to them in order to start making the bigger bucks. Don't tell me that you love this and would gladly take it, because there are lots of people who love what they do, but still expect a pay raise. Or at least don't want to go down in pay, especially if they have a fair bit of accomplishments.

You guys also have to remember that this is a life changing event, he would probably need to move to the US permanently if he was in the UFC, and its not like it free to move your family from one place to another. Getting paid whathever he does, he may feel more comfortable making that then going through all the hassle of coming here for a poor contract.

You say that there will be pay increases later on and all that, but this dude is 31. This is a 4 fight contracts. He isn't getting any younger, why take the risk and go through all that for a measly 20/20 contract?

I find it funny that in this thread, and the other regarding him signing with the UFC, everyone gangs up on this game and saying its stupid not to take the contract. When in fact, you guys should be putting any anger, or frustration towards the UFC.
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Many guys get a lot less than 20 to fight and 20 to win in their first UFC bouts. If this guy wins his first fight impressively, I bet he doubles his winnings in sponsorship deals.

Your argument about his age can be looked at differently. 31, being offered big exposure in America, much more to gain than to lose... now or never just do it.

Depends what you're in the game for, if you're content to stay in one place with lower competition until you're nearly 40 and take home some comfortable money, that's understandable. But what do you do after you're 40? That kind of money won't go far and you'll need to start over when you stop fighting if you have not gained fame from it.

Ultimately your job is to get in a cage with another man and risk permanent damage or death, so why not see the world and get as much as you can out of it? That's my view on it, I just don't think it's the right game to be in if you don't grab every opportunity, even more so if you have a family.

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I've always said in business you have to know your worth. I've never seen nor heard of Khalidov. But I can respect that he not willing to bow down with those terms. In reality what's $50k - $100k to the UFC. Make a new proposal. It's part of the process.

I'd say $50k for the first fight win or lose + bonus. If he loses then the the next three fights are 20/20.

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I don't think he is worth that much more than 20/20, which is hard to say because he is probably the guy not in the UFC I'd like to see most.

He is very comparable to Glover Teixeira who just signed for 15/15.

He'll make it to the UFC eventually. Building up his name outside the UFC could pay dividends for him, but I doubt he signs for much more than 20/20 in the near future.




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I've always said in business you have to know your worth. I've never seen nor heard of Khalidov. But I can respect that he not willing to bow down with those terms. In reality what's $50k - $100k to the UFC. Make a new proposal. It's part of the process.

I'd say $50k for the first fight win or lose + bonus. If he loses then the the next three fights are 20/20.
He obviously doesn't know his worth because he gets 30,000 to fight in Poland, but if he wins his fight in the UFC(which he should be confident he can do) he gets 40,000. It is same currency right?

Looks picky to me but I've never been that situation.

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Khalidov probably makes a lot of money in Poland....there's literally no reason for him to take such a marginal deal in the UFC.

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