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Old 06-09-2012, 03:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Dana: "Shogun would rather be cut than fight Teixeira"

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SUNRISE, Fla. – To hear Dana White tell it, Mauricio "Shogun" Rua really doesn't want to fight Glover Teixeira.

That news came out earlier this month. But on Friday, White expanded on Rua's decision to turn down a fight with the new UFC light heavyweight prospect – saying the former champion was even willing to be released from the organization rather than take a fight with Teixeira.

"He would rather be cut than fight him," White told a small group of reporters following Friday's post-fight press conference for UFC on FX 3.

Rua was scheduled to face Thiago Silva at UFC 149 next month, but Silva fell off the card with an injury. And as MMAjunkie.com first reported earlier this month, the UFC asked Rua to take on fellow Brazilian Teixeira, who last month debuted in the promotion with a first-round submission of Kyle Kingsbury to extend his winning streak to 16.

With Rua turning down that fight, he was shifted earlier this week to the headlining spot on UFC on FOX 4 in August, where he'll now meet Brandon Vera.

"No (I'm not OK with him saying that)," White said. "But you know what? It's one of those very weird situations to hear one of the top five guys in the world say, 'I'd rather be cut than fight a guy who isn't ranked,' and the reason they were saying that was, 'Oh, he's not top 10.' But then we offered him Brandon Vera and he took it in two seconds – and Vera isn't top 10 either."

The new situation does have some benefits, White said. With a previous UFC on FOX 4 headlining fight between Brian Stann and Hector Lombard falling off with a Stann injury, White can now headline the next FOX broadcast with Rua, who has not fought since a November loss to Dan Henderson at UFC 139 that was instantly regarded as an all-time classic.

"Shogun's on free TV (now), and he's coming off one of the greatest fights ever in mixed martial arts history," White told MMAjunkie.com.

But the whole situation still appears to have left White a little baffled at Rua and his team's stance on turning the proposed Teixeira fight down – especially with the threat of a possible pink slip.

"The reality is, Shogun is a guy whom I respect," White said. "The guy's been through a million wars with all the best guys in the world. But for some reason, he does not wanna fight this dude Glover. And you know me – if you don't want me to tell the truth, don't say stuff to me on the phone. That's exactly what happened. That's exactly the way it went down. And me and Lorenzo (Fertitta) said, 'Look, you can't turn down fights at this level. The money you're making and where you are ranked in the world, you don't turn down fights at this level. We might have to cut you.' He said, 'I'd rather be cut than fight him.'"

Rua, of course, has not been cut and will fight Vera in August, perhaps leaving White and the UFC brass wondering about a fight that might have been. Teixeira still does not have his next fight booked, but quickly jumped onto the mainstream radar with his win over Kingsbury at UFC 146.
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:24 AM   #2 (permalink)

 
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I love Shogun...and that is very hard to hear. What the hell? I always thought of him as a 'any guy, any time, any place' fighter.
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Had to be the name factor and how dangerous he is with 0 upsides. If I was Shogun I'd say yo give me a big name not some "dangerous up and comer." I was just the LHW champ, lost to JBJ, and lost a very close and grueling fight of the century. It is his career at stake here.
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Damn Shogun dropped my opinion of him and his team with that revelation, I thought he was a 'fight anyone' warrior too, but to hear/read that totally sucks.

Must be very embaressing to be him right now!
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Had he said no to the Vera fight, he would have been cut.

Shogun said he'd rather be cut in the hope he'd get a better opponent, Dana didn't like it so he played hardball. Offering him Vera was basically saying 'We're not giving you a top guy, accept the fight or you're gone'.

Shame that someone like Shogun who you know will war with anyone is being forced into big risk no reward fights. Its his fault for laying down the gauntlet and saying he'd rather be cut, but at the end of the day he's top five and Glover is probably between 20 and 15. And there's top 10 guys sat around with no fights.

Dana knows Rua better than any of us and speaks of him very highly, nice way to ruin a fighter's image...
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Had to be the name factor and how dangerous he is with 0 upsides. If I was Shogun I'd say yo give me a big name not some "dangerous up and comer." I was just the LHW champ, lost to JBJ, and lost a very close and grueling fight of the century. It is his career at stake here.
Oh yeah because Vera is a massive name these days? He was scared of losing that's the bottom line here, how can the UFC push new contenders through the ranks to Jones when u have fighters like shogun doing this?.
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Oh yeah because Vera is a massive name these days? He was scared of losing that's the bottom line here, how can the UFC push new contenders through the ranks to Jones when u have fighters like shogun doing this?.
You make it sound easy. Think very carefully...what would you do if you were in Shoguns position. If you say you'd take the Texeira fight I'd say you're a hero...but a foolish one. "If" you lose, everything you built for yourself, your career and your family is pretty much over. Where does he go after, before you know it you'll be placed on the shelf or worse and labelled a has been. Shogun has been around and has earned the right to choose who he wants to fight. I'd be pissed if someone throws me a top 20 name when I'm a top 5 fighter. Vera aint top 10, but he's still a bigger name. Bottomline Shogun should be fighting the likes of Rampage, Gustaf, or Rashad. Now lets flip the script. Say he beats Glover...what now. Title shot...I don't think so. That fight does nothing for his career. It's a crowd pleaser at Shogun's expense. Hey I'm a fan...I'll watch any Shogun fight. But from his perspective along with management I can totally see why they didn't choose it. What's the big deal. His WARS speaks for themselves. He's no coward.

This isn't Gladiator. As fans of course we'd want these explosive match ups usually at the expense of the fighters, but you're not really seeing the fighters' perspectives.

Wand didn't want to fight Stann, BJ didn't want to fight Koschek or Gilbert Melendez, doesn't make them any less of a man. They're veterans and have seen enough battles. They're at a point where they can pick and choose who they want because they've EARNED IT.
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Oh yeah because Vera is a massive name these days? He was scared of losing that's the bottom line here, how can the UFC push new contenders through the ranks to Jones when u have fighters like shogun doing this?.
So really, that's like what, 2 fighters? (Shogun/Hendo)
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You make it sound easy. Think very carefully...what would you do if you were in Shoguns position. If you say you'd take the Texeira fight I'd say you're a hero...but a foolish one. "If" you lose, everything you built for yourself, your career and your family is pretty much over. Where does he go after, before you know it you'll be placed on the shelf or worse and labelled a has been. Shogun has been around and has earned the right to choose who he wants to fight. I'd be pissed if someone throws me a top 20 name when I'm a top 5 fighter. Vera aint top 10, but he's still a bigger name. Bottomline Shogun should be fighting the likes of Rampage, Gustaf, or Rashad. Now lets flip the script. Say he beats Glover...what now. Title shot...I don't think so. That fight does nothing for his career. It's a crowd pleaser at Shogun's expense. Hey I'm a fan...I'll watch any Shogun fight. But from his perspective along with management I can totally see why they didn't choose it. What's the big deal. His WARS speaks for themselves. He's no coward.

This isn't Gladiator. As fans of course we'd want these explosive match ups usually at the expense of the fighters, but you're not really seeing the fighters' perspectives.

Wand didn't want to fight Stann, BJ didn't want to fight Koschek or Gilbert Melendez, doesn't make them any less of a man. They're veterans and have seen enough battles. They're at a point where they can pick and choose who they want because they've EARNED IT.
Exactly. Shogun simply recognizes that this does nothing for his career so why should he take it at this point? He doesn't have that many fights left, why should he have to fight guys with one UFC fight?

And on top of that, suddenly we believe everything Dana says? Come on, get serious. It might have gone down like Dana said, or he might just lie about anything anywhere anytime because he gets pissed. We know for a fact Dana will lie anytime it suits him, so I'll wait to hear what Shoguns camp has to say as well.
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Regardless if Dana is lying or not. If Shogun really believes in his heart that this Teixeira guy isn't a top 10 fighter? Then that means he is supposed to win this NON-Top-10 fighter easily. And that means getting back on the track for a title shot!

For me? I think after the 2 losses in the row for him (1- JBJ, 2-H-Bomb) he is afraid of a third loss in a row and getting his ass in the same situation as Fedor!

Shogun, grab the phone and take the fight. Vera is a ridiculous fight for you. Imagine you loose to Vera !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! SHAME ON YOU THEN !!!!!!!!
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