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post #21 of 64 (permalink) Old 06-11-2012, 12:18 PM
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was it the same commission that gave those judges licenses who gave Timothy Bradley the nod last Saturday against Manny?

I think so
Chael doesn't have Bob Arum money to pay people off.

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lmfao, joke post of the day right here son. hahaha

almost any dumbass can turn their BA,BBA,BSC, and so on into a PHD with time, you failz bro just like your master Chael.
Very wrong. MDs require a lot of work and studying. PhDs require self direction, creativity, vast amounts of research, new ideas, a unique thesis. Being a doctor requires learning methods and ideas that already exist, while a PhD requires your own. One is obviously much more demanding than the other. Nice try child

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Well, he took his information in front of the commission and they were convinced it was legit. Im sure they know a lot more information about the situation than you.
Actually Chael's doctor - at that meeting - said flat out that he did not have primary hypogonadism. Which is the main reason for prescribing TRT. And that he may have secondary hypogonadism.

Basically he said Chael did not require TRT but the commission granted his TUE anyway.

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was it the same commission that gave those judges licenses who gave Timothy Bradley the nod last Saturday against Manny?

I think so
Its also the same commission who tested Sonnen and suspended Sonnen after he tested posotive for elevated TR levels. Keith Kiser and Sonnen have not had a freindly relationship and Im sure the last thing he wants is to do Sonnen a favor.

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Actually Chael's doctor - at that meeting - said flat out that
he did not have primary hypogonadism. Which is the main reason for prescribing TRT. And that he may have secondary hypogonadism.

Basically he said Chael did not require TRT but the commission granted his TUE anyway.
Bottom line is Sonnen is testosterone deficient, The doctor says it may be due to hypogonadism, but he is testosterone deficient. He went before the commission and they approved it.

As long as he is within the normal level after the fight then this is a total non-issue.

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I'm sure this doctor has a valid point. However if Sonnen is actually free of any substance at this point, it's really irelevant anyway.

I did get a good laugh at LL and some of the other Sonnen backers and there instant bitchfest about this thread. These are the same guys who thrived in a thread call "surprise, suprise, Anderson hurt his knee..".

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I'm sure this doctor has a valid point. However if Sonnen is actually free of any substance at this point, it's really irelevant anyway.

I did get a good laugh at LL and some of the other Sonnen backers and there instant bitchfest about this thread. These are the same guys who thrived in a thread call "surprise, suprise, Anderson hurt his knee..".

*cough*hypocrite*cough*
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Actually - if you watched the meeting with NSAC - the doctor provided absolutely no proof that Chael is testosterone deficient. None. Literally all he said to them is that he may have secondary hypogonadism. No testosterone levels were shown to them.

And this doctor is one that has been repeatedly punished by the medical board for prescribing medications and treatments that the patient requested without testing. Often without even meeting them leading the board to revoke his rights to prescribe medication to anyone who he has not established a direct face to face doctor-patient relationship.

Sounds legit to me.

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I dont know if what you are posting are the facts or if you are just making this stuff up. Im not familiar with the meeting, but his doctor said Sonnen may have it and a reatment for it is TRT and the NSAC approved him to receive it before the fight. And as I said before, Keith Kiser and Sonnen are not best friends so Im sure they were going by the book.

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Actually - if you watched the meeting with NSAC - the doctor provided absolutely no proof that Chael is testosterone deficient. None. Literally all he said to them is that he may have secondary hypogonadism. No testosterone levels were shown to them.

And this doctor is one that has been repeatedly punished by the medical board for prescribing medications and treatments that the patient requested without testing. Often without even meeting them leading the board to revoke his rights to prescribe medication to anyone who he has not established a direct face to face doctor-patient relationship.

Sounds legit to me.

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Or maybe he does not want to fight someone who put him on his back and beat him for 4 1/2 rounds and this time hes afraid it may be a full five.

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Yeah, Askren4win, the best fighter in the world is scared of a lying, cheating piece of filth.

As for the rest I actually watched the NSAC meeting with Chael and his doctor where he received his TUE for this fight and everything I said is true. His doctor did say that he may have secondary hypogonadism and that a treatment for it is TRT but nowhere did he show any test results - or even imply that he had test results - showing him to have that condition or low testosterone. Basically he gave absolutely no proof whatsoever that Chael needs TRT.

Let's do some math.

Known liar and cheat (Chael) + doctor previously censored for prescribing unneeded meds (his doctor) = Legitimate treatment?

See how the math fails there? Is there any reason at this point to believe he needs it? Both men involved are known liars and cheats in their fields. Multiple fields in Chael's case. Both men are unrepentant. So where is the credibility? Why should I - why should anyone - actually believe he needs TRT?

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Its also the same commission who tested Sonnen and suspended Sonnen after he tested posotive for elevated TR levels. Keith Kiser and Sonnen have not had a freindly relationship and Im sure the last thing he wants is to do Sonnen a favor.
What do you call offering Chael an advisory position on TRT treatment?

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