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Old 06-12-2012, 10:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Winslow the best ? You need to watch more of her fights bro. She's the absolute worst, it's just the commission trying to be politically correct that she even has a job.

Mazzagati is a close second.

Herb is the best every fight he refs you know is a completely fair and safe fight.

Miragliotta is 2nd IMO. McCarthy is good too, but he seems far too lenient on people breaking the rules for an advantage (grabbing fence, shorts) and is too quick to separate or standup.
Sarcasm my friend!

The fact is a woman should not be a ref in mens MMA, unless they are a beast of a woman. Being a ref requires a level of physical strength to seperate fighters. A woman of Winslow's stature simply doesn't have that.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Sarcasm my friend!

The fact is a woman should not be a ref in mens MMA, unless they are a beast of a woman. Being a ref requires a level of physical strength to seperate fighters. A woman of Winslow's stature simply doesn't have that.
ah nm then

I agree on the strength part too, it just seems completely dangerous.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Sarcasm my friend!

The fact is a woman should not be a ref in mens MMA, unless they are a beast of a woman. Being a ref requires a level of physical strength to seperate fighters. A woman of Winslow's stature simply doesn't have that.
I don't agree with that at all, but I think she sucks as a referee. Technically she should never need strength to pull a fighter off, a la Rampage continuing to beat a KO'ed Wandy, as the fighters should listen to her commands. Still she is a horrible freaking ref and is probably only hurting the idea of more female refs.
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I don't agree with that at all, but I think she sucks as a referee. Technically she should never need strength to pull a fighter off, a la Rampage continuing to beat a KO'ed Wandy, as the fighters should listen to her commands. Still she is a horrible freaking ref and is probably only hurting the idea of more female refs.
"should" isn't the same as "will". The difference between the two could be a dead or seriously injured fighter.

There have been plenty of instances where fighters in the heat of the moment refused to stop when a ref tried, held on to a choke too long or went back for cheap shots after the fight/round was clearly over. The ref has often had to drag guys off and physically blanket them while they cool off and realize what they're doing.
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"should" isn't the same as "will". The difference between the two could be a dead or seriously injured fighter.

There have been plenty of instances where fighters in the heat of the moment refused to stop when a ref tried, held on to a choke too long or went back for cheap shots after the fight/round was clearly over. The ref has often had to drag guys off and physically blanket them while they cool off and realize what they're doing.
I really doubt Mazz could pull Lesnar off of Mir but they let him ref it.
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I really doubt Mazz could pull Lesnar off of Mir but they let him ref it.
Well there you go, another reason to boot mazz!
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Well there you go, another reason to boot mazz!
What weight classes do you think he should be removed from? 185+?
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What weight classes do you think he should be removed from? 185+?
Based on that criteria? Yes 185+.

Based on his reffing ability? 125+.
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McCarthy, Rosenthal, Dean. Pretty much agree with everyone else, except I think the worst is Cecil Peoples, with kudos to the ref of Pat Curran vs Joe Warren.

Edit* Fernando Yamasaki is kind of a wank as well.
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