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Old 06-12-2012, 09:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Best UFC referees! Vote now

As we've seen many (maybe too many) bad stoppages, early stand ups etc vote for the best, who in your opinion makes the fewest mistakes.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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They both have made mistakes but Herb Dean and Big John are streets ahead of the rest imo.

The only question mark i have over Big John is that sometimes he seems to get swayed by the crowd, promotor etc. A prime example being the Rumble/Vitor fight where he kept standing the fight up after about 10 seconds of inactivity. This was clearly done as the crowd was Brazilian and the UFC were pissed at Rumble for missing weight.

Edit: I forgot about Kim Winslow... she is probably the best actually
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I think Herb Dean and Josh Rosenthal have been pretty steady.

However, I think Steve Mazzagatti and Kim Winslow should have a fight to the death to see who the shitter ref really is. At least we would be rid of one of them.... or if we're lucky, maybe they'd simultaneously kill each other.....
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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They both have made mistakes but Herb Dean and Big John are streets ahead of the rest imo.

The only question mark i have over Big John is that sometimes he seems to get swayed by the crowd, promotor etc. A prime example being the Rumble/Vitor fight where he kept standing the fight up after about 10 seconds of inactivity. This was clearly done as the crowd was Brazilian and the UFC were pissed at Rumble for missing weight.

Edit: I forgot about Kim Winslow... she is probably the best actually
That was Dan Miragliotta, not John McCarthy.

I think Herb, Rosenthal, and McCarthy are the best, I actually liked the Fedor stoppage and Rosenthal also let Shogun/Hendo and Lesnar/Carwin go on.

Winslow is the worst, and Mazzagatti's a close second.
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I think Herb Dean and Josh Rosenthal have been pretty steady.

However, I think Steve Mazzagatti and Kim Winslow should have a fight to the death to see who the shitter ref really is. At least we would be rid of one of them.... or if we're lucky, maybe they'd simultaneously kill each other.....
I completely agree, especially on the crap ref fight. I know they can't control who comes, but you would think the UFC could at least rule out a ref or two.
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That was Dan Miragliotta, not John McCarthy.

I think Herb, Rosenthal, and McCarthy are the best, I actually liked the Fedor stoppage and Rosenthal also let Shogun/Hendo and Lesnar/Carwin go on.

Winslow is the worst, and Mazzagatti's a close second.
Ah yeah you're right. Dastardly Dan! MMA has the same problem as a lot of sports, which is that refs have zero accountability. The thing is all the fans understand that reffing is bloody hard. And i think a lot of people would let mistakes go if the refs had the balls to come out after do an interview and say 'I got it wrong today'.

I like what's.happened in the state of origin match in Australia. The ref.had a Shocker In the 1st game so has been stripped of the chance to ref the last 2 games. MMA could easily do the same, a bad undrcard reffing performance and the ref doesn't do any of the main card fights
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I like Herb Dean... some times I find he stops fights too quickly... but I think it's out of good intentions.
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Herb Dean is usually at the top, all the refs make mistakes, but Herb tends to make the least, and is the most consistent at getting the fight stopped at the right time and noticing injuries and isint swayed by the fighter to keep fighting when he shouldnt.

Josh Rosenthal is always good, and imo Yves Lavigne and Dan Miragliotta has been steadily improving recently. I also think John McCarthy and Mario Yamasaki are middle of the pack refs.

Kim Winslow is the worst, and Steve Mazzagatti and Kevin Mulhall is close.

Right now my Ranks are:
Tier 1: Dean > Rosenthal
Tier 2: Miragliotta > Lavigne > McCarthy > Yamasaki > Marc Goddard
Tier 3: Mazzagatti > Mulhall > Leon Roberts > Winslow

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Edit: I forgot about Kim Winslow... she is probably the best actually

Winslow the best ? You need to watch more of her fights bro. She's the absolute worst, it's just the commission trying to be politically correct that she even has a job.

Mazzagati is a close second.

Herb is the best every fight he refs you know is a completely fair and safe fight.

Miragliotta is 2nd IMO. McCarthy is good too, but he seems far too lenient on people breaking the rules for an advantage (grabbing fence, shorts) and is too quick to separate or standup.
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