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post #21 of 54 (permalink) Old 06-14-2012, 08:38 PM
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I can finish cans and over the hill guys too if I pissed them off enough to have them fight my fight. Doesent make me a great fighter, just an average one with a clever tactic.
Boxing and jiu-jitsu are clever tactics now?
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Wand has an even bigger mouth than Chael, so there's a bit of irony. This is the same guy who came out and called Vitor a punk running scared after he broke his hand and had to withdraw from their fight. This guy gets one win over Cung Le, and suddenly he thinks he can talk like he's relevant? Should be funny when Rich Franklin KOs him and sends him crashing back to reality.
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Got great respect for Wanderlei's career, he has never been a favorite of mine and I always watched his fights unbiased. His accomplishment in MMA has to be respected by any fan and he deserves to be one the greatest fighters in MMA history.

I fully respect his other wisdom but disagree with him stating Chael is scared and weak in person. Chael is one of the toughest guys in MMA mentally and its his main weapon with his wrestling. If Chael didnt have that toughness then he would be an average UFC fighter.

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Wandy pointed out he is old school, most old school fighters such as Tito,Bas,Shamrocks,etc don't take shit from nobody no matter what.
yes and....

Bas got tapped out but Ken twice and go pissed at frank for making faces at him causing him to get a penalty.

Tito was able to piss ken off and lure him into a fight when he should of got surgery done on his ACL.

Chuck and Randy were able to get under Tito's skin beat the crap out of him.

Now Chael is under Wandy's skin and if they do fight Chael will pound him into the mat.

There are ways to deal with these people and Wand would be wise to change his ways.

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Fixed for you.
Are you implying that Steroids strengthen jaws??

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Are you implying that Steroids strengthen jaws??
To some extent ... it probably won't change out cold KOs, but it does give you higher pain tolerance and greater aggression levels to walk through and counter blows that would have you turtling up and backpeddling before. Just look at Overeem, it was pathetic how he ran and turtled so quickly from Kharitonov, Shogun, Chuck etc. Now he just walks through blows from heavy hitters like Duffee and Rogers.

Heck I even think it may help against out-cold type KOs because it LITERALLY gives you a bigger jaw with the huge roid frog head, and also lots of neck muscle which would help stabilize the head and absorb more punishment.

Anyway I was just trying to use most of your sentence because it lent itself to "go down" and "blow". The point is Chael was a mediocre fighter before his magic beans, Wand would wipe the floor with him the day his shrunken nuts went of the juice.
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God some of you people need to learn some basic logic and stop using Overeem as proof that steroids are a one stop wonder drug. Just because two things occur at a similar time does not prove they are correlated. I guess steroids taught him how to punch, too?

It's gotten to the point where I think if Overeem came out and said he was gay everyone would exclaim "see he used to have sex with women but now men, steroids make you gay!".


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Wanderlei was a damn trash talker as well, specially in Pride. What pisses him is not the trash talking but the whole 'let's shake hands and pretend we are all pals'.
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God some of you people need to learn some basic logic and stop using Overeem as proof that steroids are a one stop wonder drug. Just because two things occur at a similar time does not prove they are correlated. I guess steroids taught him how to punch, too?

It's gotten to the point where I think if Overeem came out and said he was gay everyone would exclaim "see he used to have sex with women but now men, steroids make you gay!".
Abnormal skull growth is a documented side effect of HGH which is usually taken as part of a steroids stack.

It's not wild anecdotal correlation when it's medically documented and seen in hundreds of roid abuse cases.

There's a difference between bad correlation and documented medical science.

Steroids didn't teach Overeem how to punch, he was already OK at that. What they did is put 50 lbs of roid meat behind that punch, and gave him a frog head to walk through the counters. Wow let's just pretend the 60 pounds of he man baloon muscle had nothing to do with his success, he was just unlucky when he used to run like a girl from the Kharitonovs of the world.
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Wanderlei was a damn trash talker as well, specially in Pride. What pisses him is not the trash talking but the whole 'let's shake hands and pretend we are all pals'.
Why the hell does he hang out with Anderson then?

Chael may be a dick but Chael doesn't run around and whine about respect and all that other crap, Anderson will bow and then he'll refuse to fight, dance in the middle of the octagon, taunt his opponent and hide behind the ref.

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