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post #21 of 114 (permalink) Old 06-16-2012, 09:56 PM
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i think he couldve had a shot like he said someone needs to really pressure jones and with that reach its hard to get inside so if someone goes in with that gameplan and ready to take a little punishment to dish it out then who knows wouldve been a good fight for sure though

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this is titos missus...

False. This is Tito's missus.

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Except that Tito has never liked taking a hit and has always been hesitant against someone who can hurt him with strikes. Jones might not be able to ko him like Chuck but he could hurt him. Especially with the body shots he likes to throw. The same kinds of shots that have dropped Tito multiple times over his career. The giant head sucks too much strength away from his core for it to be able to take a hard hit.

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In my first sentence I said I saw the point. What I was saying is that if female mma was more popular guys would be commenting left and right on the fighters looks. Cyborg/Gina anyone? But that's ok.
the day i read cyborgs shite because she looks funny...

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Just looking for consistency,

by promoting a prejudice you tacitly disapprove of? lets try that with the rest of the isms...

consistency exists. its called fighter bashing. calling tito an ugly shit wrestler is clearly this. having a vagina dont change this. thats why its called consistency.

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False. This is Tito's missus.
savior complex eh?

if you aint fapped to titos missus...

and we all know sharons best day photo aint getting close to jessas worst...

lets get back on topic

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savior complex eh?

if you aint fapped to titos missus...

and we all know sharons best day photo aint getting close to jessas worst...

lets get back on topic
I've fapped to Jenna many a time. But not the used up, soulless slag that has been left behind. Tito is dating and has been dating the latter.

But yes, back on topic. I've always liked Ortiz, and have defended him on numerous occasion. As I said, he was an excellent fighter for his time.
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I've fapped to Jenna many a time. But not the used up, soulless slag that has been left behind. Tito is dating and has been dating the latter.

But yes, back on topic. I've always liked Ortiz, and have defended him on numerous occasion. As I said, he was an excellent fighter for his time.
lol...right. im sure she can even contemplate the poverty of your reality...

too many levels of unhealthy attitudes to women, baseless hubris and complete denial of the sexual histories of everyone you ever...

lets not go there.

"mma has evolved!"

how does jones win? or does he just "evolve all over tito in the cage?

im ****in fed up of creationists using "evolution by armbar" as a catch all nut hug device for theoretical victory in every fantasy match up ever.

the last point aint at you.

mma has gone from stone, paper, scissors, to everyone pretending they are a better swiss army knife than the last one that came out...

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Yeah, Tito couldn't get past Frank Shamrock, Randy Couture, or Chuck Liddell in his "prime". To say Tito could have put Jones on his back and ground and pound him is crazy. Tito made his legacy beating middleweights I dare say 60-70% of the large light heavyweights, the guys that drop down from heavyweight would have beaten Tito Ortiz.
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lol...right. im sure she can even contemplate the poverty of your reality...

too many levels of unhealthy attitudes to women, baseless hubris and complete denial of the sexual histories of everyone you ever...


lets not go there.

"mma has evolved!"

how does jones win? or does he just "evolve all over tito in the cage?

im ****in fed up of creationists using "evolution by armbar" as a catch all nut hug device for theoretical victory in every fantasy match up ever.

the last point aint at you.

mma has gone from stone, paper, scissors, to everyone pretending they are a better swiss army knife than the last one that came out...
It begins!... again.

How about Jones wins by being better than Tito at wrestling, GnP, striking, and anything remotely athletic? How about Jones wins due to a tendency of his to throw hard body shots that Tito has been notably weak towards over the course of his career? How about we use logic instead of saying that everyone is just using the evolution excuse?

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It begins!... again.

How about Jones wins by being better than Tito at wrestling, GnP, striking, and anything remotely athletic? How about Jones wins due to a tendency of his to throw hard body shots that Tito has been notably weak towards over the course of his career? How about we use logic instead of saying that everyone is just using the evolution excuse?

im pretty sure i remember why i put you on ignore. arguing with people you are broadly in agreement with. let me see...i dont buy the jones is simply better at everything argument. based on what? based on what is jones better at all forms of wrestling? the rib shots are a good point.

how about look up logic in the dictionary and come back with a working vocabulary you actually understand rather than a misunderstanding of the concept of evolution and some weird assertion of validity based on membership of an internet page. the evolution by armbar excuse is rampant. your lazy musings and confirmation bias, have been the closest thing to an actual break down in the history of this thread.

ok, so weve established that tito is vulnerable to certain things. we know that. what we dont know is if jones is vulnerable to relentless takedowns and submission wrestling. tell me who has actually come at him like that in the way a prime tito would?

titos a pretty big dude. he is 6'2" and was a beast in his day. i wouldnt just laugh him out of contention without properly weighing up what would actually happen.

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this is titos missus...



so... unless your pics beat this, i aint really interested in your thoughts on what or who is hot, and i really doubt tito would be either!..
Okay, maybe it's your youth, but I would rather hump a dead beaver than marry a pornstar any day of the week. Porn stars are like strippers, except with a stripper you can possibly delude yourself into thinking she hasn't been choking on dick since she was 14, and you can try to think that yours is the biggest she's seen and even then you need to be pretty delusional. With a porn star, nothing is a secret...nothing.

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