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post #81 of 148 (permalink) Old 06-26-2012, 05:03 PM
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Do i really have to explain that to you???

Holy sht... some people.
What the- you havin' a bad day or something?

I don't understand how the top two guys flipping spots changes much of anything, and was hoping you could elaborate.

Sheesh.

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What has Floyd Mayweather got to do with any thing? Floyd Mayweather isn't a cheat or a fraud, like Sonnen. The talent levels between the two ahtletes isn't even remotely comparable either. One will go down as one of the greatest boxers to ever live and be remembered for years and years to come. The other will be forgotten in ten years time.

Erroneous. If you think no one cares about finishes, then you must be watching the wrong sport. Most of the fans care about finishes and understand that finishing a fight is more significant than grinding out a decision.

More ridiculous statements. Do you think about what you post before you type it out? No one cares about Anderson outside of Brazil? What planet are you living on? Do you actually believe the bullshit that comes out of Sonnens mouth? You seem to be brainwashed.
Floyd Mayweather hit a woman, what's worse, money laundering or abusing females? You tell me. Don't pull the whole legacy card because no one is gonna argue how great Floyd is but he and Chael are both criminals.

I've seen Anderson's PPV numbers, I don't have to listen to Chael, it's a fact he doesn't draw at all. GSP, Jones, dos Santos, Lesnar, Machida, Shogun, Jones, Rampage, Forrst, Rashad, BJ, and pretty much any Champion besides Edgar, Cruz, and Aldo have sold more than Anderson. Americans could care less about him. He's just a random guy in a cage fighting to most people.

And no people don't care about finishes, people care about personality and brands, GSP and Floyd Mayweather are clear proof of that, these guys have nothing but decisions but they sell more than anyone.

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Floyd Mayweather hit a woman, what's worse, money laundering or abusing females? You tell me. Don't pull the whole legacy card because no one is gonna argue how great Floyd is but he and Chael are both criminals.

I've seen Anderson's PPV numbers, I don't have to listen to Chael, it's a fact he doesn't draw at all. GSP, Jones, dos Santos, Lesnar, Machida, Shogun, Jones, Rampage, Forrst, Rashad, BJ, and pretty much any Champion besides Edgar, Cruz, and Aldo have sold more than Anderson. Americans could care less about him. He's just a random guy in a cage fighting to most people.

And no people don't care about finishes, people care about personality and brands, GSP and Floyd Mayweather are clear proof of that, these guys have nothing but decisions but they sell more than anyone.
Ive heard that what Sonnen was caught doing is kind of standard practice in real estate and that Sonnen just so happened to get caught.

I hear what you are saying, Mayweather beat his wife, and in front of his kids for god sake. That is waaaaay worse then what Sonnen did. Sonnen hurt himself more than anyone and paid the penalty for it so once again he gets a clean slate IMO.

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What the- you havin' a bad day or something?

I don't understand how the top two guys flipping spots changes much of anything, and was hoping you could elaborate.

Sheesh.

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Do i really have to explain that to you???

Holy sht... some people.

Yeah i really wonder how one of the most disrespectful fighters on the planet who is one of the best wrestlers who many many people consider boring beating THE P4P BEST who is one of the most polite fighters who has the most dominant striking in all of MMA and has ran the division since 2006 creating a record of most title defenses and a amazing series of highlight reals would turn the divison on its head.

SMH
If that change doesnt turn the divison on the head then nothing does.

No i was having a great day and still am then i saw your post which i figure was just a bad attempt at starting an argument. An argument over a side comment that doesnt really matter i should add.

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If that change doesnt turn the divison on the head then nothing does.

No i was having a great day and still am then i saw your post which i figure was just a bad attempt at starting an argument. An argument over a side comment that doesnt really matter i should add.
Considering Silva has been champ as long as he has it would shake the division up. Especially in the sense that Anderson would have to work back up to a title shot and whether he can or not.

Or would he just retire.

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Considering Silva has been champ as long as he has it would shake the division up. Especially in the sense that Anderson would have to work back up to a title shot and whether he can or not.

Or would he just retire.
Yup and it opens up opportunities for whole new contenders who can challenge for the title. I would love to see Chael vs Rich in a title fight in which Rich loses a close decision fight and retires. Probably mostly because im a fan of both these guys. And yeah seeing Anderson climbing the ladder would give him a shot to fight guys who probably never would have made it to the number 1 contender spot. And like you mentioned what if he retires???

Chael winning this title would create as big of a change in the MW division as a division could get.

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If that change doesnt turn the divison on the head then nothing does.

No i was having a great day and still am then i saw your post which i figure was just a bad attempt at starting an argument. An argument over a side comment that doesnt really matter i should add.
Not trying to start an argument- just asking for an explanation. Hope your great day continues.

I still don't see where the huge shake up is; if we boil it down, all that would have happened is the No.1 and the champ changing positions. It's huge for the two fighters involved, but otherwise...

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I would think it would be just the opposite, frankly: Anderson would be gifted an instant rematch (Dana's legacy champ precedent), and nothing would really change until we saw the winner of that fight.
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Looks like Anderson has picked up a few tips from Chael on how to promote a fight.

I learned a long time ago to ignore what fighters say before a fight and listen to what they say after the gate is in.
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First off all what Mayweather did was awful, however it was over a cheating allegation and he lost his temper. Its in the same boat as what Chael did which is a white collar crime.

As for Silva losing, it not only changes the MW division, but the enitre UFC landscape. Jon Jones is on the down low because of his DUI. The UFC if SIlva wins will make him the poster boy. Sadly those Brazilian fans are more of a money pit for MMA than North America. If Silva were to lose, there is no way they can promote Chael as a posterboy figure. Some of you guys may thing this is crazy, but no one outside the ufc will consider a man who has been caught for doping credible. Look at the other sports leagues or figures , and see how those who have been caught doping are being perceive.
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First off all what Mayweather did was awful, however it was over a cheating allegation and he lost his temper. Its in the same boat as what Chael did which is a white collar crime.

As for Silva losing, it not only changes the MW division, but the enitre UFC landscape. Jon Jones is on the down low because of his DUI. The UFC if SIlva wins will make him the poster boy. Sadly those Brazilian fans are more of a money pit for MMA than North America. If Silva were to lose, there is no way they can promote Chael as a posterboy figure. Some of you guys may thing this is crazy, but no one outside the ufc will consider a man who has been caught for doping credible. Look at the other sports leagues or figures , and see how those who have been caught doping are being perceive.

Beating your GF and money laundry is in the same boat???

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Not trying to start an argument- just asking for an explanation. Hope your great day continues.

I still don't see where the huge shake up is; if we boil it down, all that would have happened is the No.1 and the champ changing positions. It's huge for the two fighters involved, but otherwise...

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I would think it would be just the opposite, frankly: Anderson would be gifted an instant rematch (Dana's legacy champ precedent), and nothing would really change until we saw the winner of that fight.
Well i didnt expect you to be able to see it. Which is why i considered your comment pointless to begin with since it is easy to tell when someone has their mind made up. We have a different outlook on what is considered turning a division on its head and thats that. Im not sure what you would think would qualify as that but hey what the hell... To each his own.

And btw its one thing asking for an explanation its another to make it seem like i am wrong while asking for an explanation. IMO there is a huge difference between the two. So thats why i replied a bit aggressively i guess. (But thats my problem)

And thanks. I just woke up from a nap to watch American Ninja warrior so im feeling well rested and get the opportunity to see some crazy athletes beat the ninja Course.

If anyone is interested btw you can youtube Mayham Miller performing the Ninja obstacle course.

So my good day is def continuing.

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