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post #11 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-28-2012, 11:23 AM
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Right now, St Pierre cannot even fight at all, because he's had serious injuries and is still in the phase of regaining his ability to fight to the full extend. Yes, skillwise St Pierre is the best and theoretically almost unbeatable at 170lbs, but we will have to see what the injuries and long lay of have done to him.
This is, indeed, a question mark.

However, failing a (re)injury of some sort, I'm betting a rejuvenated/re-motivated GSP is going be a wrecking machine- ring rust or no.

I just hope he doesn't go too balls-to-wall in training...

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He's the hug pre-fight for GSP picking apart Condit from start to finish.

GSP loses to no one in the 170lb division right now. Some guys have 1 shinning strength where as GSP is the complete package.

Let's see Condit come in with a game plan like Diaz and abandon it after he gets taken down time after time and jabbed to death.

Nothing against Condit, he seems like an awesome guy and he's a good fighter...but not even near the calibre GSP is.
Condit is a better striker than GSP and he's very versatile and aggressive on the ground, very slick from his back. See the Rory Macdonald and Stun Gun fights. Then add on top of that the raw killer instinct Condit has. He's a very dangerous opponent for GSP.

Then take into consideration that GSP is coming off a very serious and threatening injury, Georges' isn't even going to be close to 100 percent come fight time, not at all like his old self, no matter how well his training seems to go.

I haven't bet against GSP in a fight for years, until now. Condit is taking that belt.

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I'm not a fan of GSP, but I repsect the holy hell out of him. I prefer a more agressive style, and so I prefer guys like Condit.

Despite some of the crap Condit got for the Diaz fight, I firmly believe he has the ability to beat GSP. GSP is the champion, the gold Condit is carrying is bascially a golden ticket to a title fight and nothing more.

As eluded to earlier, don't let the Diaz fight fool you. I believe we tend to see the worst of a fighter when he is in a bonified number one contenders fight. Those are not easy to secure and guys tend to play it safe for the win. We saw it with Josh Koscheck against Daley, Evans vs. Davis, even Sonnen vs Bisping, you could even argue Clay Guida just tried it against Gray, Diaz and Condit was no different. We'll see the mean Carlos return against GSP, and I believe we'll see his downfall.
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Condit is a better striker than GSP and he's very versatile and aggressive on the ground, very slick from his back. See the Rory Macdonald and Stun Gun fights. Then add on top of that the raw killer instinct Condit has. He's a very dangerous opponent for GSP.

Then take into consideration that GSP is coming off a very serious and threatening injury, Georges' isn't even going to be close to 100 percent come fight time, not at all like his old self, no matter how well his training seems to go.

I haven't bet against in a fight for years, until now. Condit is taking that belt.
The layoff is a definite reason for concern but I am not buying into Condit being the better mma striker until I see it. Penn was the better boxer and Alves was going to dominate on the feet. They were demolished on the ground and outstruck standing.

Maybe in a pure kickboxing match Condit would win but in the cage I just dont see it. The one and only thing I am worried about is the injury and layoff.


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He isn't getting past Condit. Not if the real Naturual Born Killer shows up any way.
ha...ha ha....hahahahahahahahhaahhaha.

Er, sorry. ah-hem. Why on earth would you think Condit stands a chance?

GSP is the better striker and Condit gets out wrestled all day and night.

Maybe if you are speculating on injuries but if they both show up 100% this is a bad night for Condit 9.9/10 times.


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Yay, I'm so... indifferent.
It's because you know deep down that if GSP shows up at 100%, and he has never compromised himself by going in less than that before, that he will probably nullify and destroy Condit just as bad as his last opponents.

I love GSP but I agree with this not being an exciting fight. Condit is going to be outclassed everywhere as long as injuries do not play a factor (and I think if they play a factor in training GSP will pull out).


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The one and only thing I am worried about is the injury / layoff.
Same here. Other than that, no worries at all.
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ha...ha ha....hahahahahahahahhaahhaha.

Er, sorry. ah-hem. Why on earth would you think Condit stands a chance?

GSP is the better striker and Condit gets out wrestled all day and night.

Maybe if you are speculating on injuries but if they both show up 100% this is a bad night for Condit 9.9/10 times.




It's because you know deep down that if GSP shows up at 100%, and he has never compromised himself by going in less than that before, that he will probably nullify and destroy Condit just as bad as his last opponents.

I love GSP but I agree with this not being an exciting fight. Condit is going to be outclassed everywhere as long as injuries do not play a factor (and I think if they play a factor in training GSP will pull out).
Why on earth would you not give Condit a chance?

Only a GSP fan boy devoid of using logic to actually analyse the fight would actually believe a fighter has no chance in a fight.

Take off the blinders.
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Condit is a better striker than GSP and he's very versatile and aggressive on the ground, very slick from his back. See the Rory Macdonald and Stun Gun fights. Then add on top of that the raw killer instinct Condit has. He's a very dangerous opponent for GSP.

Then take into consideration that GSP is coming off a very serious and threatening injury, Georges' isn't even going to be close to 100 percent come fight time, not at all like his old self, no matter how well his training seems to go.

I haven't bet against GSP in a fight for years, until now. Condit is taking that belt.
Condit is going to get dropped, several times. Condit may be a better pure striker but GSP is the best MMA striker this sport has seen and that adds a whole new level to the game.

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Condit is going to get dropped, several times. Condit may be a better pure striker but GSP is the best MMA striker this sport has seen and that adds a whole new level to the game.
disagree tremendously though he is excellent but there are fighters that could strike GSP. if we learned anything from the Shields fight, he gets really irritated when getting hit, hates it. I'm referring to him having a bit of a stress at his nose rather than the eye incident. Carlos is tough enough to take one to give one, no way GSP sticks at that. They probably wont strike if that Condit comes out.
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Why on earth would you not give Condit a chance?

Only a GSP fan boy devoid of using logic to actually analyse the fight would actually believe a fighter has no chance in a fight.

Take off the blinders.
Well I am exaggerating, of course he has a chance. I just think GSP is better at everything, so I don't Give Condit a very good chance. You did make a pretty matter-of-fact statement that GSP isn't getting past Condit with no specific reasoning.


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