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Anderson Silva (C) 74 72.55%
Chael Sonnen 27 26.47%
Draw 1 0.98%
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:27 AM   #501 (permalink)
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Not an argument indeed. Round 2 proves you wrong, which is why Sonnen mentally crumbled and pulled that spinning crap.
Exactly. Anderson was on his back for 23 minutes against Chael the first time and as we all know was badly losing the fight, and then he seized his chance and won. That speaks huge volumes about how well Anderson keeps his composure and continues to fight on. This fight he watches Sonnen make a horrible attempt at a backfist, lands a perfectly placed knee, swarms him, and wins the fight. All after a round eerily similar to the first match. There truthfully may be no way to break the man psychologically.

Chael has displayed that he is capable of committing crucial errors that cost him two matches against Anderson. His mental game fell completely apart right after Anderson defended the one thing Chael "had" on him.

Every fight is more then just what these guys are good at physically.

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Old 07-09-2012, 04:02 AM   #502 (permalink)
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This fight was kind of a let down...im tired of silva winning, surely someone can beat him?
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:28 AM   #503 (permalink)
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This fight was kind of a let down...im tired of silva winning, surely someone can beat him?
yeah me too this is the only reason i was kind of pulling for chael on this one. MW division is getting a little boring with silva being champ for so long.

Would love to see him try his hand at the top 5s in LHW.
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:37 AM   #504 (permalink)
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I like dominant champions; there is nothing better than a dominant champion going up against a legit and deserving challenger. Revolving door divisions are significantly less interesting to me. That means that there isn't a legit phenom at the top because history has shown us in combat sports that usually you don't get more than 3 elite guys at most in any division at any time.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:42 AM   #505 (permalink)

 
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I highly doubt that. Sonnen takes Silva down 9 out of 10 times. That's not even an argument.
No, it's not an argument. It's a completely factless statement.

In the first fight he stuffed more attempts than Sonnen landed. He got taken down in three rounds, knocked down in one, and reversed in another. Stuffing four attempts in between. The fact that Silva was on his back for the majority of the 23 minutes doesn't mean he was taken down at will every single time. I think the statement 'Sonnen keeps Silva down if he lands a take down' is much more accurate.

The second fight, Silva over committed straight away. Sonnen got very deep and took him down. Round 2 Silva stuffed three attempts.

I'm also with osmium. I much rather a division with a dominant champion. The LHW division, to me, before Bones came along was extremely tedious. I really like knowing 100% the guy with the belt is the absolute best in the division, and if someone does beat him, it's huge.
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:10 AM   #506 (permalink)
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Good thread all. Congrats on keeping it civil and enjoyable.

Here's my take-away:

1/ AS's mediocre TDD > Sonnen's mediocre striking.

2/ Chael showed a lot of quit, and a lot of mental softness.

3/ IMO, there were at least two instances wherein the fight could/should have been stood up in the first round, due to AS stifling Chael from the bottom.

4/ I loved the REAL emotion I saw from Chael in the octagon, post-fight. I loved that AS's bbq invitation cracked Chael up. If you really want some insight into what's inside these guys, ignore all the pre-fight hype, and see how they react immediately after the fight- especially if they lose.

5/ That was the fugliest spinning back-fist I have ever seen.

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Old 07-09-2012, 11:19 AM   #507 (permalink)
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Anybody else watch this --->

I wonder if that's Chael's father or trainer...lolz!



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Old 07-09-2012, 11:56 AM   #508 (permalink)
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So I just re-watched the fight (sober). I was wrong. Silva did stop more of Chael's takedowns than I thought.

I did notice something else though. Silva had his hands down most of the round. That tells me that obviously Silva wasn't worried about the striking. Hands at your hips helps TD defense a lot better than hands protecting your face. If Silva had a striker in front of him that he needed to worry about, his TD defense wouldn't have been that good. I don't see Silva dropping his hands to his hips if he has GSP in front of him.

I still stand by a good striker with high level wrestling and sub defense can beat Silva.

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Anybody else watch this --->

I wonder if that's Chael's father or trainer...lolz!



"Did you see a Bruce Lee movie. That's how you went down. You threw it so hard you did a 180/360 and fell down. It was cool looking though. You still got the greatest family on the planet and still the best looking man in fighting."

Too funny...
Chael's dad passed away before the first Silva fight.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:11 PM   #509 (permalink)
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I still stand by a good striker with high level wrestling and sub defense can beat Silva.
Good luck finding one of those.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:16 PM   #510 (permalink)
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Good luck finding one of those.
I can think of two off of the top of my head.

Anderson is amazing. I'm not denying that. In my opinion, GOAT doesn't get taken down and punched in the face 5 minutes at a time. He is beatable.
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