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Old 07-02-2012, 01:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dana White Says Frank Shamrock Is 'Irrelevant,' Hasn't Done Anything For 'The New UFC

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Last week, Frank Shamrock continued his longstanding war of words with UFC president Dana White, calling Dana a "douchebag" while discussing his continually being snubbed by the UFC Hall of Fame. Dana White went on Sirius Radio to address Frank's comments and wasn't particularly kind in his response.

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Frank Shamrock's always talking smack. I don't know what's worse, Frank Shamrock talking smack like he should be in the Hall of Fame or Spike TV having him on. We have the biggest fight of the year coming up and they have Frank Shamrock on there, the most irrelevant dude on the planet. Here's the thing about the UFC Hall of Fame in all honesty, you know, the UFC Hall of Fame this is - these are guys that we have been inducting that have done a lot for the sport since we've (ZUFFA) have taken over, you know what I mean? Here's a guy, you know, Frank Shamrock, Frank Shamrock hasn't done anything for the new UFC. And when I say the new UFC I mean the regulated, since it's been regulated, since it's been back on pay-per-view, mainstream television, all the things that have been done over the last 12 years, the guys who have been inducted have helped us get to where we are. Frank Shamrock isn't one of those guys.

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First of all, we see a continuation of the "ZUFFA myth" by making it sound like they're the ones who got the sport regulated...etc. But that's mostly unimportant to the discussion here (though you can read about it here).

The main thing is the idea that they're inducting fighters who've done a lot for the sport since ZUFFA took over. What has Dan Severn done for MMA since the ZUFFA purchase? Mark Coleman came back to the UFC for an unspectacular late career run, but it's hard to argue that his post-ZUFFA contributions are something that puts someone over the top. Royce Gracie's post-ZUFFA contributions are nothing to write home about either.

Obviously, those guys all deserve to be in. But Shamrock's title reign is worthy by itself, but more important is his overall impact on the training methods of fighters. He helped take the sport to new heights and did it while being an undersized, yet dominant, champion. Acting as though anything he did held the sport back is absurd.

But this is why no one should take the UFC hall of fame seriously. There are no voters and it is based on whatever criteria they see fit and whatever version of history they feel like accepting at that moment. Had Tito not re-signed with the UFC and went to Strikeforce (pre-ZUFFA buyout) while still badmouthing Dana as he was at the time, do you think he would be getting inducted? It's not like anything that happened after he came back to the UFC boosted his legacy. If Ken Shamrock hadn't been inducted when things were "better" between himself and the UFC, do you think they would put him in today?

All this is why it's not even worth getting upset over Frank or Pat Miletich being snubbed anymore. It is what it is, and what it is..is not a real hall of fame.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think Frank and his accomplishments in the UFC are way too overblown. The only reason anyone still talks about him is because of his recently removed braces and the fact that he beat Tito back in the day. That's it.

I don't get where this movement to get him added into the HOF really came from, does everyone want DW to recognize someone who fought majority of their fights outside the UFC? That really doesn't make sense.

Frank should be inducted into the braces HOF, he repped them for a long time.
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I think Frank and his accomplishments in the UFC are way too overblown. The only reason anyone still talks about him is because of his recently removed braces and the fact that he beat Tito back in the day. That's it.

I don't get where this movement to get him added into the HOF really came from, does everyone want DW to recognize someone who fought majority of their fights outside the UFC? That really doesn't make sense.

Frank should be inducted into the braces HOF, he repped them for a long time.
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Frank is about as relevant as Pat Miletich
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I'm with you on this. Frank has had only 5 fights in UFC, even Tim Sylvia is a better candidate than him ffs..
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I didn't realize anyone took the UFC HoF seriously.

For example, Royce Gracie is in there. Had current regulations been implemented at UFC 1, Royce would have been destroyed as he wouldn't have been able to use his Gi.
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...Frank getting snubbed isn't surprising...
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I never liked Frank from his very first fight in the UFC. His style is everything I dislike. Stiff and horrible. Combined with swollen over tanned oily nastiness and that was enough for me. I put him right into my "You suck and shall suck forever" box and there he shall stay aong with his considerably more grotesque brother. If anything, its the fecking Shamrocks that were putting me off watching the UFC. A few more fighters like them and I would have switched off for sure. I hated their fights.
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I just realized it's more branding than anything. IE: NBA hall of fame although there are other b-ball organizations.

I believe there should be a MMA HALL OF FAME to include others from past organizations.
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I believe there should be a MMA HALL OF FAME to include others from past organizations.
I think that's the consensus pick but ZUFFA pretty much is MMA now.. At least the top part though.
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