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This was by far one of the dumbest rumors in MMA. I'm sure he wanted to sub Chael, but the idea that he could have finished at all time and just chose not to is beyond stupid.
It's not that dumb. It's backed up by some pretty solid reasoning. I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's definitely an interesting theory backed up with some decent points.
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If he wanted to win by submission he wouldn't have been throwing strikes with extreme prejudice.

The bjj gi/honor the nogs submission theory is ridiculous. He won by submission and that's all.
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It's not that dumb. It's backed up by some pretty solid reasoning. I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's definitely an interesting theory backed up with some decent points.
Yeah, its pretty dumb, Even Anderson won't try to sell that Idea, he got worked and worked good, but I don't think it happens again..
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It's not that dumb. It's backed up by some pretty solid reasoning. I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's definitely an interesting theory backed up with some decent points.
No it's not. He looked slow because he was concerned about the takedown. He has never had great TDD ever and no one has been able to stop Sonnen from taking them down. Chael hurt him because he drops his hands and Chael's boxing is not as bad as everyone makes it seem.

Honestly think about what a stupid idea it actually is. The fake moon landing people make more sense than this garbage.

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Anderson had a huge winning streak and a title to defend. He won't take such an unnecessary risk as to give Chael the chance to practice 4 rounds of GnP drills on Silva's face, and have it all as part of his dastardly scheme to sub Chael in the last 2 minutes.
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Yeah, its pretty dumb, Even Anderson won't try to sell that Idea, he got worked and worked good, but I don't think it happens again..
Ok, that's your opinion. Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it dumb.

Anderson isn't the most normal personality in the UFC, lets face it, and he has entered some of his contests with some bizarre tactics to say the least. (Maia, Leites, Cote).



^^^^Jorge Rivera fight. Anderson openly lets a heavy handed fighter in Rivera repeatedly punch him in the face.

Then factor in everything mentioned in the OP. It's an interesting theory, weighing together everything. Again, just because you personally disagree with it doesn't make it dumb. I remember when Roy Nelson predicted Brock Lesnar to drop out of his fight with JDS during TUF and most of the MMA community labelled him as crazy and called him dumb for even suggesting the idea...
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No it's not. He looked slow because he was concerned about the takedown. He has never had great TDD ever and no one has been able to stop Sonnen from taking them down. Chael hurt him because he drops his hands and Chael's boxing is not as bad as everyone makes it seem.

Honestly think about what a stupid idea it actually is. The fake moon landing people make more sense than this garbage.
He didn't look so slow in the Yushin Okami fight, when he knew he had to be cautious of the take down in that fight also...

His TDD also looked pretty damn solid in the Okami fight and people were hyping up Okami to threaten Anderson with his powerful grappling/wrestling...

I don't think it's such a stupid idea at all really, but I'm quite open minded when it comes to most things in the world. Anderson is a wacky personality and has dazzled the MMA spectrum with some crazy fight tactics. I don't think it's stupid to entertain the idea that he would solely focus on submitting Sonnen given his nature at all.
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He didn't look so slow in the Yushin Okami fight, when he knew he had to be cautious of the take down in that fight also...

His TDD also looked pretty damn solid in the Okami fight and people were hyping up Okami to threaten Anderson with his powerful grappling/wrestling...

I don't think it's such a stupid idea at all really, but I'm quite open minded when it comes to most things in the world. Anderson is a wacky personality and has dazzled the MMA spectrum with some crazy fight tactics. I don't think it's stupid to entertain the idea that he would solely focus on submitting Sonnen given his nature at all.
Okami doesn't have a power double, he was going to try to clinch and get him to the fence the same way Henderson did. Also Okami is slower than Tim Sylvia.

I don't doubt he might have gone in trying to sub him, but I'm going with the first time Sonnen connected and his legs went out and Sonnen was on top and bashing his face in for the entire first and Anderson never even got close to TRYING to sub him he would have decided he should just finish the fight.

I don't care how good you are or what your "wacky personality" is like even if you're a black belt and the other guys is a white belt you're not going to just hang out and wait for the last possible second to finish the guy.

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It would have been very arrogant of Anderson if he was to do that, especially against someone with the top-control of Sonnen.
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No.

People have far too much time on their hands. Anderson didn't wait until he was two minutes from losing his title to submit Sonnen. And Sonnen didn't let Anderson submit him so as to save the UFC face.

FFS.
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