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Old 07-10-2012, 11:37 PM   #31 (permalink)
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...Silva looked great off of his back this time. He maintained excellent wrist control and kept Sonnen stuck in his halfguard almost the entire round. When Chael mounted him, he still couldn't land anything but a few punches. Outstanding ground defense by Anderson. He rode out the 1st rd. storm. One thing is certain and without question, Sonnen got in Silva's head bigtime, taking him out of his game and not giving him a chance to get off. If anyone breaks, they can tap. Anderson has some incredible heart. No more proving that...
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Silva was broken after the first round!!!!!! ?????????

You have to be kidding me. He didn't get hit, didn't get elbowed, didn't get pounded. There was no Ground and Pound by Sonnen. Just a whole lot of Ground.
I think too much credit is being given to these wrestlers for being on top and doing nothing.
It's supposed to be Ground and Pound ie: Vintage Tito. But these modern wrestlers are happy with abandoning the Pound and just doing Ground. Someone needs to tell MMA Judges that laying on top of someone is not a legitimate fighting style. It's more of a Kama Sutra Style.

So yeah, if Silva was broken, it was only because he was incredibly uncomfortable having another Man force himself to lay on top of him and do nothing other than push his crotch into Silvas.

Honestly, that would break me too. That would break me into tears, much like the "Crying Game".

If you aren't willing to fight, get out of the cage. Make no mistake, I have no problem with active ground games, like Guida and plenty of others. But I am sick and tired of collegiate style wrestlers that have this perfect balance of Skill and Non-Skill. Where they are just skilled enough to hold you down, but not skilled enough to do anything about it. So they hold you down and throw weak non fight ending rabbit punches to score points. Yippee!

To be honest, I am not as upset with them, as I am with the Judges that reward it and the Refs that don't stand them back up when clearly, there is nothing going on and they are at a "Fighting" Stale mate.

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Old 07-11-2012, 04:22 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Lol. Reminds me of street fighter 4. I'll play against dude who beat me in the first round and they got it int the bag. Then I'll come back in the second with a plan to destroy n kill.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:21 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Everyone that is moaning that Sonnen went to far and talked too much trash must have missed the newsflash.........Hello!...Silva would not take the fight. Even when Sonnen and Dana went to Brazil for the press conference...Silva had not taken the fight yet. It was a tactic by Dana and Sonnen to force Silva to take the fight. He insulted Brazil knowing that the Brazilians would help fuel the fire and for Andy to take the fight. It worked. What surprised me was...Andy really thought he might lose this fight. Did you see how emotional Andy and his guys were, and Silva's kids came into the octagon and everyone crying and emotional. Andy actually knew that he just might lose that belt. It was a enormous relief when the fight was over. Never seen anything like that in any of Andys fights.
I didnt think Andy broke either. Sonnen didnt really land anything hard. He got the full mount and didnt posture up and finish the fight. Even my wife was yelling at the tv because sonnen got the full mount and didnt do anything with it. that is all
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Silva was broken after the first round!!!!!! ?????????

You have to be kidding me. He didn't get hit, didn't get elbowed, didn't get pounded. There was no Ground and Pound by Sonnen. Just a whole lot of Ground.
I think too much credit is being given to these wrestlers for being on top and doing nothing.
It's supposed to be Ground and Pound ie: Vintage Tito. But these modern wrestlers are happy with abandoning the Pound and just doing Ground. Someone needs to tell MMA Judges that laying on top of someone is not a legitimate fighting style. It's more of a Kama Sutra Style.

So yeah, if Silva was broken, it was only because he was incredibly uncomfortable having another Man force himself to lay on top of him and do nothing other than push his crotch into Silvas.

Honestly, that would break me too. That would break me into tears, much like the "Crying Game".

If you aren't willing to fight, get out of the cage. Make no mistake, I have no problem with active ground games, like Guida and plenty of others. But I am sick and tired of collegiate style wrestlers that have this perfect balance of Skill and Non-Skill. Where they are just skilled enough to hold you down, but not skilled enough to do anything about it. So they hold you down and throw weak non fight ending rabbit punches to score points. Yippee!

To be honest, I am not as upset with them, as I am with the Judges that reward it and the Refs that don't stand them back up when clearly, there is nothing going on and they are at a "Fighting" Stale mate.
Truth be told! Nice post.

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...Silva looked great off of his back this time. He maintained excellent wrist control and kept Sonnen stuck in his halfguard almost the entire round. When Chael mounted him, he still couldn't land anything but a few punches. Outstanding ground defense by Anderson. He rode out the 1st rd. storm. One thing is certain and without question, Sonnen got in Silva's head bigtime, taking him out of his game and not giving him a chance to get off. If anyone breaks, they can tap. Anderson has some incredible heart. No more proving that...
Yep he had good wrist control preventing Chael from landing any significant shots. Chael threw a couple of good shots, an elbow near the back of the head, and one BIG cross that Anderson dodged. Other than that Anderson wasn't in danger til possibily in the end when Chael mounted. Anderson is a tactician and master strategist.

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Lol. Reminds me of street fighter 4. I'll play against dude who beat me in the first round and they got it int the bag. Then I'll come back in the second with a plan to destroy n kill.
Excellent analogy. Everybody always cries when they lose and say "that was luck or in this case you cheated...wahh...wahhh."
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Silva did look like he gave up on the first round, and decided to save his energy and just make it to the second round with as little damage as possible.

You can see Silva's concern when he was walking to his corner at the end of the first round. Silva showed immense mental control in this last fight, instead of panicking and going the, "I will KO this wrestler before he takes me down route", he changed plans and went to a very methodical approach to keep the fight standing with his grappling.
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He was wrong about breaking Andy in the 1st but right about getting destroyed in the second.
This.

And just because he finally admits how incredible Silva is, that does not negate all the garbage he preached for years.

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