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post #121 of 213 (permalink) Old 07-14-2012, 12:02 AM
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I think the worst thing chael said in all his shenanigans was the comment about Brazilian kids playing in the mud. That comment captures everything that is vile in American culture (especially right wing politics)... I.e. America is the greatest and other countries are trash. Which is utter nonsense. That kind of attitude not only alienates people but tarnishes the image of America world wide.

I've lived here for a bit over a decade now and I have so many positive things to say about American people it's not even funny. I have hardly had any issues with anyone and enjoy living here so much. But when I hear shit like that I cringe. Even worse I am saddened on the kind of impression this crap gives to people from back home in Europe and the rest of the world. It's the "stupid American" image all over again, which in my experience is not representative of the people here.

It's shit like that, that made chael appear so disgusting prior to the fight.
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So him holding his shorts for a full 20 seconds....?
Big Fricken deal. It was a couple of times over a 20 Second period - 20 Seconds!! Give me a break.
He was warned for it and stopped. Crap like that happens in MMA all the time at all levels. If you think it had any impact on the outcome, you have not been paying attention to MMA over the last 10 years.
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Big Fricken deal. It was a couple of times over a 20 Second period - 20 Seconds!! Give me a break.
He was warned for it and stopped. Crap like that happens in MMA all the time at all levels. If you think it had any impact on the outcome, you have not been paying attention to MMA over the last 10 years.

All the time? Name one fight where a fighter held someones shorts for 20 straight seconds. Hell, 10 straight seconds even. I'm sure 10 seconds has been done once.. maybe. But name one. Name 3 if it happens all the time.


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Big Fricken deal. It was a couple of times over a 20 Second period - 20 Seconds!! Give me a break.
He was warned for it and stopped. Crap like that happens in MMA all the time at all levels. If you think it had any impact on the outcome, you have not been paying attention to MMA over the last 10 years.
Thats EXACTLY what it did have.

Chael would have taken Anderson down on 2 different occasions against the fence if Anderson didnt hold on to the shorts to establish underhooks. He didnt have underhooks thus he grabbed on to the shorts to simulate the barrier underhooks give. This is coming from someone who wrestled for 5 years and currently trains MMA. The people who say "Well it looked like Anderson would have defended the takedown anyway" are simply Anderson fans. He didnt hold on to the shorts for dear life for no reason, that alone should let them know they are wrong.

So Chael gets the takedown in round 2 and probably wins that round and never throws that spinning backfist.

Thus the shorts grabbing shaped the way that fight played out.

Now would the outcome have changed??? I HAVE NOOO ******* CLUE. But i do know it changed the fight itself.

Brilliantly calculated move by Anderson Silva. He didnt care about getting warned or getting points deducted since he wasnt going to win a decision. BUT he did care about getting taken down. So it was a win-win for him.

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"If you aint cheating you aint playing to WIN!"

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Thats EXACTLY what it did have.

Chael would have taken Anderson down on 2 different occasions against the fence if Anderson did hold on to the shorts to establish underhooks. He didnt have underhooks thus he grabbed on to the shorts to simulate the barrier underhooks give. This is coming from someone who wrestled for 5 years and currently trains MMA. The people who say "Well it looked like Anderson would have defended the takedown anyway" are simply Anderson fans. He didnt hold on to the shorts for dear life for no reason, that alone should let them know they are wrong.

So Chael gets the takedown in round 2 and probably wins that round and never throws that spinning backfist.

Thus the shorts grabbing shaped the way that fight played out.

Now would the outcome have changed??? I HAVE NOOO ******* CLUE. But i do know it changed the fight itself.

Brilliantly calculated move by Anderson Silva. He didnt care about getting warned or getting points deducted since he wasnt going to win a decision. BUT he did care about getting taken down. So it was a win-win for him.
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They're just words. Sure, it's pretty foul, but at the end of the day they're just words.
Hey, SpoKen, being an Admin in this forum, you are entitle to keep order and, in an extreme case, ban someone from posting... Wow, guess what, in a forum like this, words are all we got. So if someone write offensive words against your family, for example, you would do something about it.

Point is: Words represent ideas. They are never "just words". That´s why we never, ever seen Anderson doing things he did in this fight. Your man, Chael, went way too far and never been stopped by people upstairs and was indeed under the skin of Anderson.

Anderson never been known as a cheater and did never behave like that in a weigh in, so any extra-ordinary issue we all witnessed, including, but not limited to shorts grabbing, you can blame on 2 years of Chael's personal, tasteless, unlimited attacks.
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How hypocritical is it to call Anderson bad for the sport when Chael spent the last 2 years turning the fight into a WWE circus.


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People are supid. I have no idea why people still talk about hte prefight hype from Chael. He got everyone excited and both Silva and him made a ton of money.
He doesnt mean what he says. If Anderson really gets mad at Chael for getting him money, he is just as stupid as you guys.
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Hey, SpoKen, being an Admin in this forum, you are entitle to keep order and, in an extreme case, ban someone from posting... Wow, guess what, in a forum like this, words are all we got. So if someone write offensive words against your family, for example, you would do something about it.

Point is: Words represent ideas. They are never "just words". That´s why we never, ever seen Anderson doing things he did in this fight. Your man, Chael, went way too far and never been stopped by people upstairs and was indeed under the skin of Anderson.

Anderson never been known as a cheater and did never behave like that in a weigh in, so any extra-ordinary issue we all witnessed, including, but not limited to shorts grabbing, you can blame on 2 years of Chael's personal, tasteless, unlimited attacks.
You're right...

Where is Chael Sonnen's account, I'll infract him for what he said. Hell, Chael is about to get his account banned, where is he?


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People are supid. I have no idea why people still talk about hte prefight hype from Chael. He got everyone excited and both Silva and him made a ton of money.
He doesnt mean what he says. If Anderson really gets mad at Chael for getting him money, he is just as stupid as you guys.



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You're right...

Where is Chael Sonnen's account, I'll infract him for what he said. Hell, Chael is about to get his account banned, where is he?
I don't really think that's what he means man. I think he is saying that you, as an admin with power overt this forum, have a set of rules and guidelines that you believe are "right" or "just". Anderson is like the admin of the octagon and Chael made several huge infractions personally against the admin. At least that's the metaphor he was going for, I think.


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