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post #31 of 213 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 07:27 AM Thread Starter
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Where is YOUR source that mentions that Chael gets tested every two weeks? Without any proof to the contrary, the default practice by the commission is no random testing, so the burden of proof lies on you to prove otherwise.

Oh I see, Chael himself is your source, how reliable. The same guy who claims he's never lost.

Even if he does get tested every two weeks, it's meaningless to have your pet quack do the testing, as far as I know the commission isn't doing any random testing on him in between fights. Prove me wrong, post your source that THE COMMISSION is testing him between fights or during camp. He got tested right before the fight, but that is also fairly meaningless and doesn't catch him cycling between fights.

As far as the rules go it is not a loophole what anderson did either. The RULES state that a fighter can be warned for shorts grabbing, or there MAY be a point deduction for repeated offenses which didn't happen. That's it. The same way the rules state that Chael MAY be random tested for licensing but he wasn't.

But situations were handled by the same set of rules by the same people who decide how to apply them. BOTH sets of rules are lax.

And if you really believe chael's sob story of actually never going through puberty and having the hormone levels of gina carano, all while packing on muscle and smashing NCAA caliber wrestlers, I have a bridge to sell you in Manhattan.
Go read my post again. I added some stuff for you because your response is too predictable.
And even if Chael WAS the only source. Thats still better then your source which is NO source. Your basing EVERYTHING because of his last fight with Anderson. Its complete nonsense.

And BTW. If your claiming a man never gets tested then its on YOU to proof he doesn't. Not the other way around. Not every single time a person goes and gets tested will it be on the internet. Plus the NSAC said they will test him several times before the fight and after it in the hearing.

Chael didnt Cheat this fight and thats fact. Without any evidence against him you cant claim other wise.

Go take it up with the NSAC if you got a problem. Dont accuse Chael of cheating while following the rules.

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Sonnens been more impressive in defeat than most fighters manage in victory.

He sets an excellent example for the rest of us to aspire to.

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Hendo complained about how they don't actually do testing during camp for guys with TRT exemptions during the Nate scandal. I think it depends on what state you apply for it in as well. I believe Nate applied in New Jersey and their policy is that you have your levels tested multiple times for a certain length of time before you are fully approved. Either way Chael's story is clearly bullshit and he had been using steroids for a while. You don't get those kinds of levels with legitimate TRT and you don't get to the levels of amateur athletics he did if you never went through puberty.
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Hendo complained about how they don't actually do testing during camp for guys with TRT exemptions during the Nate scandal. I think it depends on what state you apply for it in as well. I believe Nate applied in New Jersey and their policy is that you have your levels tested multiple times for a certain length of time before you are fully approved.
During Chael sonnens hearing to get a TRT exemption (The hearing wasnt until may 21st btw). They told him he will be Blood tested several times before and after the fight on July 7th. And the next morning he has to take a blood test on his own time and dime and submit it. He also had to submit his medical records from the Stann/Bisping fights.

I do have a question though. If your testosterone is extremely high from abusing the testosterone injections. How long does it take to go back to normal??? Is it the same time-frame as roids?


Anyway i have to go to bed. Its 5am... i was just finishing some of my nightly online nerd duties (Real time war games) before i go to bed. (Gotta get that 13 hour building to start building itself while i sleep)

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Go read my post again. I added some stuff for you because your response is too predictable.
And even if Chael WAS the only source. Thats still better then your source which is NO source. Your basing EVERYTHING because of his last fight with Anderson. Its complete nonsense.

And BTW. If your claiming a man never gets tested then its on YOU to proof he doesn't. Not the other way around. Not every single time a person goes and gets tested will it be on the internet. Plus the NSAC said they will test him several times before the fight and after it in the hearing.

Chael didnt Cheat this fight and thats fact. Without any evidence against him you cant claim other wise.

Go take it up with the NSAC if you got a problem. Dont accuse Chael of cheating while following the rules.
What about the fact that Sonnens doctor said in an interview after the last fight that Sonnen wasn't under normal teststeron levels, just slightly in the lower parts of normal.

Also the fact that anyone can hire a doctor to say that they need TRT as we have seen lately in the sport. As soon as your testo ratio is screwed up, youre on TRT because you have hypogonadism. Buffed guys in their 30s. It's a loophole, thinkin anything else would be naive.
As if Overeem and Nate Marquart need TRT. Same with Sonnen.

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I do have a question though. If your testosterone is extremely high from abusing the testosterone injections. How long does it take to go back to normal??? Is it the same time-frame as roids?
I totally depends what roids or form of TRT you are using. AAS are bound by esters that control how fast the substances are released in your body, there is everything from 1 day to several months. These things can be extremely tailor made. When it comes to TRT (standard pharmacy legal stuff) if you use injectables, the testosteron is usually bound to a very slow ester such as undecanoate ester, so it would be detectable a long time after, but trust me, all these things can be manipulated & can be obtained in other formats both legally and black market. And the cream/patch form of TRT is short-acting and needs to be applied more often.

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What about the fact that Sonnens doctor said in an interview after the last fight that Sonnen wasn't under normal teststeron levels, just slightly in the lower parts of normal.

Also the fact that anyone can hire a doctor to say that they need TRT as we have seen lately in the sport. As soon as your testo ratio is screwed up, youre on TRT because you have hypogonadism. Buffed guys in their 30s. It's a loophole, thinkin anything else would be naive.
As if Overeem and Nate Marquart need TRT. Same with Sonnen.
What about it???

And do you have any proof of Chael hiring a doctor to say that for him??

If you want to claim that Chael is cheating this fight then you have to PROVE that. So far Chael is passing all the tests and is doing everything within the rules of the NSAC. So strictly speaking in this fight he is NOT cheating.

Now if he fails a test in the near future thats another thing. That would mean he cheated in this fight too.



Now Anyway. Quit distracting me! I need to sleep ) :
But if i see a post and dont respond its like an itch i cant scratch haha.
Soo good night im shutting this comp off before i see something else XD

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The only thing I took away from the fight is that Anderson is a dirty as hell fighter. Seriously, after that first round he took every opportunity he could to cheat. Anderson didn't care if that knee hit his opponents face, it just managed to not hit his face.

You could tell Rashad meant to throw the knee to the gut that finished Tito, but Andy literally flew into it, and you can't be 100% accurate when you fly through the air with a knee to a grounded opponent.

Good article, Chael Sonnen is so freakin manly, I hope you guys are taking note.
I would definitely say Anderson knew where that knee was going. He is an insanely accurate striker and I highly doubt he would sacrifice his belt to land a knee on Sonnen.


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What a stupid argument in the first place. How can it hold any weight?

"Anderson Silva tried to knee Chael in the face". But he didn't...what is the issue?

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Hey, and if Jose Aldo didn't grab the cage he would have never knocked out Chad Mendes.
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