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post #41 of 213 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Purgetheweak View Post
Sounds like Chael has bigger balls than most of his fans and his coaching staff.
Considering the whole TRT debacle, this made me laugh.

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post #42 of 213 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SideWays222 View Post
So he doesnt think the knee is illegal. He doesnt want to appeal the loss. He still would like another rematch. And it doesnt look like he is retiring.

And yeah the knee looked like it hurt..... alot.

Well to me those are all good things to hear.
Actually he doesn't really say that it wasn't illegal. He just says that the referee didn't see it as illegal. That's a nice way of saying "I accept it", but in the meantime implying that it's only the referee's fault for not seeing that it was illegal. Why else would he say that referee calls work "in both ways"¿ That's rhetoric.

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“The knee really hurt, all those shots really hurt, but here’s the reality – we don’t do instant replay in this sport and we shouldn’t. It comes down to a judgment call,” Sonnen said. “Wherever the referee says the knee landed officially, that’s where the knee landed. That’s an excellent official as they all are, he made his call and that’s the way it goes, and I will never complain or look back.”


“Let’s make sure we don’t call it illegal, once again the referee’s judgment is what stands. I trust in that and it works both ways. I’ve thrown knees before, the referee makes his decision, that is the decision and we live with it,” said Sonnen.
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I personally thought the knee was just thrown, and it looked like it deflected off chaels arms (which were covering his face) and hit him in the chest.

Im not saying it was deliberately aimed at the face but throwing a knee that hard at such a small target leaves little room for error.
Small target¿ The torso is biggest target of the human body there is. Sonnen sat immobile(!) on the ground, doing nothing(!) and the knee went never higher then the chest on its way. It was not deflected by the arms, but aimed at the chest and it hit the chest. You can watch that particular scene in slo-mo and you will perfectly see it.

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Ofcourse Sonnen is going to say it had no impact on the fight. If he goes around saying it impacted the fight then YOU and thousands like you are going to be talking bullshit about how Chael is making excuses and whatever else. Anybody can figure that one out.

Anderson grabbing the shorts helped him stop the takedown. The fight would have been different had Anderson not held the shorts in the second round and went down as he was supposed to. But he did hold the shorts and saved himself so we will never know what would have happened had Anderson not broke the rules. And Chael held the shorts back for a split second just to return the favor but since Anderson didnt go for the take down it didnt even matter it was more of the act of doing it back and letting him know wtf.
I certainly didn't like the short grabbing and thought that it was close to being point deduction worthy. But he also stuffed all other TD attempts in that round without any short grabbing. And as you said elsewere, it didn't really make a difference in the outcome of the fight anyways.

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If something is being overlooked it was Andersons cheating to avoid being taken down. Even though there are many pictures and Gifs of it. You would rather avoid it or make excuses for it instead of just admitting to what he did. Its crazy.


Well its because he did continue to do it. And because it changed the way the fight went. Im not saying that Chael would have won... FAR FROM IT. But Chael would have gotten him down in round 2 and then never thrown that spinning backfist. Now could Anderson have won in rounds 3,4, or 5?? HELL YEA. Probably even likely. But it changed the path of the fight and now we will never know what that other path (With Chael taking Anderson down in rd 2) would have looked like. He got the win he got because of the rule he broke (And by "the win" im talking about the exact time he won/how/etc). Who knows we might have gotten an even more epic KO win in round 5 or something by Anderson. But we just wont ever know. And thats probably the part that stinks the most.

That said
As i mentioned earlier i dont blame Anderson for doing it. He chose a Reward/Risk move and it paid off. He would rather accept being warned by the ref OR having a point taken away to avoid the takedown knowing every chance he is standing he can get the KO. Then being taken down and risk loosing another round.
Actually, as far as I've seen it, he didn't really "continue" it, as he wasn't really doing it before the first warning came. As I've seen it, he started to grab not the shorts but the leg for a single leg. Unfortunatly we don't get replays of that from different angles like from the finnishing scene, so I'm not 100% sure on that, but even Rogan commentates on wondering that Silva holds one of Sonnen's legs (attempting a single leg).
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post #43 of 213 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GrappleRetarded View Post
Hey, and if Jose Aldo didn't grab the cage he would have never knocked out Chad Mendes.
Thought the same thing myself. But the more you say it, the closer we are to "All Brazillians are cheats!" being posted lmao.

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still no pics of Sonnen grabbing shorts? He's such a liar.

Lets move on.

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post #45 of 213 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 09:16 AM
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I know there are fans that Sonnen will never win, they took his trash talk way to serious. I'm sorry, but as far as I am concerned he is one of the most legitimate men in the sport. I have never heard him offer up one excuse for why he lost in either fight. Sure he made some hilarious claims that we all knew were BS, but he never offered an excuse and he isn't now.

I hope he doesn't retire, I'd like to see him around a little longer.
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post #46 of 213 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SideWays222 View Post
Go read my post again. I added some stuff for you because your response is too predictable.
And even if Chael WAS the only source. Thats still better then your source which is NO source. Your basing EVERYTHING because of his last fight with Anderson. Its complete nonsense.

And BTW. If your claiming a man never gets tested then its on YOU to proof he doesn't. Not the other way around. Not every single time a person goes and gets tested will it be on the internet. Plus the NSAC said they will test him several times before the fight and after it in the hearing.

Chael didnt Cheat this fight and thats fact. Without any evidence against him you cant claim other wise.

Go take it up with the NSAC if you got a problem. Dont accuse Chael of cheating while following the rules.
Well you're welcome to take the vaseline and shorts issue to the NSAC as well then . The ref made a call so Anderson has nothing more to answer for.
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Dana would be stupid to get rid of Chael, he has ratings written all over him.

Goodbye Tito, thanks for the 15 years of amazing fights, top level entertainment and controversy!
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post #48 of 213 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SpoKen View Post
So him holding his shorts for a full 20 seconds....?
Stop stretching the truth to fit your arguments. 20 full seconds? Get off it , you sound like a little butt hurt fan. If he was aiming at his face he would have hit his face. Sorry but a striekr of his calibre doesn't miss that knee LOL

If he aimed for the face it would have landed
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Good guy Sonnen...



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Originally Posted by Sousa View Post
Stop stretching the truth to fit your arguments. 20 full seconds? Get off it , you sound like a little butt hurt fan.

hahahaha you're right. it was only 17 seconds. stupid Sonnen fans...

The truth is, no one in their right mind can blame Silva for cheating when locked in a cage with CHAEL P. SONNEN

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