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post #81 of 213 (permalink) Old 07-12-2012, 03:38 AM
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Jesus... Chael is taking his loss like a man but his fans are taking his loss like a late night session with their cell mate. A lot of crying and bleeding asses.

Do you know what the real travesty was from Saturday night? That Sonnen even got the ******* rematch.
Favorite post of all time. It's completely true. This guy takes PEDS and beats the crap out of Andy and gets subbed and then talks loads of crap and gets a rematch. I'll admit, Chaels smart. He's a great talker. Fighter? Eh? Debatable.

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come on now... you can go around saying "chael broke the rules the first fight" "anderson broke the rules the second fight". It doesnt matter. Silva won when sonnen broke the rules, and he won when he broke the rules.

And just to be completely fair, silva didn't violate any rule that results in suspensions, he violated a rule that results in a point deduction, but IT DOES NOT MATTER.
If you read my posts you would know im not arguing any of those points. I even gave BUNCH OF props to Anderson Silva. I was only speaking the COMPLETE TRUTH on the situation. Something that Anderson Silva fans get insulted about for whatever reason.

As soon as someone mentions the truth about what the Shorts holding did. Anderson Silva fans get in an uproar.

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I can see it now. Silva vs Sonnen III

Rd 1 - 4 Silva pulls on his trunks so he can give Sonnen 10-8 for four rounds as Sonnen tries his hardest to dryhump him on the ground.

Rd 5 - Silva knees him in the head as he shoots for another TD

Point being guys, you need to stop fighting over the stupid stuff. Did he grab his shorts? GEE DUH But who used PEDS in the first fight? Who said that it's a street fight with two men locked inside of a cage?

Seriously guys, your hero is oppenly addmitting that Anderson is better and won the fight and DISMISSING what happened (short grabs, vasaline rubs) while you are sitting here pointing out the obvious.

The fight is over. Anderson won because he is a better fighter. Not because he put a drop of vaseline on his chest, not because he held onto his shorts, but because he is the greatest fighter of our time, arguably that has ever lived. Argue if you want, but facts don't lie.
Why do we even mention the first fight what chael did there (although crooked) has nothing to do with what siva did on this fight.

I really didn't care what happened and who won but i hated to see it go this way with silva cheating to get the win. I mean I went back and watched it again and looked at stills and its not even close silva had an intent to cheat for the win. next time chael needs to wear tight shorts so this won't happen again.

I somewhat liked silva before but after this fight. I wouldn't say he was a favorite of mine but still kind of like him and I have lost a ton of respect for the guy after that fight.

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Why do we even mention the first fight what chael did there (although crooked) has nothing to do with what siva did on this fight.

I really didn't care what happened and who won but i hated to see it go this way with silva cheating to get the win. I mean I went back and watched it again and looked at stills and its not even close silva had an intent to cheat for the win. next time chael needs to wear tight shorts so this won't happen again.

I somewhat liked silva before but after this fight. I wouldn't say he was a favorite of mine but still kind of like him and I have lost a ton of respect for the guy after that fight.

You know whats funny. Even if the ref deducted a point??? That wouldnt affect Anderson at all. He knows he wasnt going to get a decision so why would he care how many points he lost. He was just going to hold the shorts every chance he gets to prevent the takedown. It was really a no loss scenario for him. Smart shady strategizing on his part.

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You know whats funny. Even if the ref deducted a point??? That wouldnt affect Anderson at all. He knows he wasnt going to get a decision so why would he care how many points he lost. He was just going to hold the shorts every chance he gets to prevent the takedown. It was really a no loss scenario for him. Smart shady strategizing on his part.
oh yeah there is no way silva was going to win a UD he was either going to KO or submit Chael or lose so why worry about the point deduction.

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You dont know if he is a healthy man without it.

Quit frankly im surprised his testosterone was in the lower ends of Normal instead of the higher ends.

You are calling it a loophole because you WANT to call it a loophole not because you have any evidence to back you up.

And the stuff your talking about wasnt even part of the discussion we were having. Next time let me know you are not trying to participate in the discussion but instead pointing out something else. So i know what you are trying to get at. Instead of thinking wtf does this guy think he is proving.

And Chael this fight did everything completely legally. He didnt "Get away" with anything. He didnt have to get away with anything since everything he did is completely legal. What Anderson did ISNT legal. Simple as that.

If you further wanna discuss this then come with something else other then accusations or your own beliefs.
Well my evidence is what I posted above, that Chaels own doctor said that he wasn't below normal levels, why would he need TRT then? other evidence is Chael having a successful wrestling career without TRT when having hypogonadism. It's all evidence.

Funny I think it's highly related to what you guys where talking about, but I have a feeling that you either don't understand my point or pretend that you don't.

I can't prove that chael doesn't need TRT, just as you can't prove that Silva grabbing his shorts had any effect on the outcome of the fight. There is however plenty of evidence making it seem like Chael does not indeed need TRT.


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You know whats funny. Even if the ref deducted a point??? That wouldnt affect Anderson at all. He knows he wasnt going to get a decision so why would he care how many points he lost. He was just going to hold the shorts every chance he gets to prevent the takedown. It was really a no loss scenario for him. Smart shady strategizing on his part
Where is your proof of that?

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Where is your proof of that?
The fight itself. Lmao

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The fight itself. Lmao
I'm going to assume that you are joking, so in other words, you have no idea?

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I'm going to assume that you are joking, so in other words, you have no idea?
Well it can be easily be said with almost absolute certiancy that silva was not worried about points and was looking for a ko or submission. The number one concern was getting taken down and sonnen grinding out a round. Silva would do anything to keep that from happening and toopen Chael up for a ko.

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Well he only broke the rules to defend one of the takedowns he defended the others legally.
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