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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 07-13-2012, 08:04 PM
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Thank you! Enough bitching jeez its MMA!!...you know who else isnt bitching about a late stoppage? Munoz! At least this way the fights are more decisive, it was a late, but not THAT late my god...better than an early stoppage IMO
You think Munoz will be fine with that stoppage? If I was Munoz and I looked back at that replay I would be absolutely fuming with Josh Rosenthal. I would be extremely angry. Late stoppages like that can be seriously damaging to the long term health of fighters and the one on a Wednsday night is honestly one of the worst stoppages I have ever seen in the modern day era of this sport.

Rosenthall wasn't a little too late on the trigger, he was way, way too late. Munoz was out cold from the moment he hit the mat from the elbow. He took around 7 or 8 full force unnecessary shots.

I doubt Munoz is happy about this.

That said, Rosenthall has always been one of my favourite refs and he's at least acknowledging he made a mistake, albeit a huge, huge mistake. He really needs to be on point in the future, I don't ever want to see a stoppage like that again.
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He made a mistake and he knows it, leave it now.

Thw Guy has said he knows he ****ed up but people wont drop it with him.... sadly

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He made a mistake and he knows it, leave it now.

Thw Guy has said he knows he ****ed up but people wont drop it with him.... sadly
He apparently doesn't know he ****ed up by his comments about it. He is just trying to get people off his back.
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Look the fighters know the risk and its very common for them to ask refs to give them extra time to work when rocked and NOT stop it early...herb has a tendency to be too safe, he stops fights very early and i actually think some fights could have had different outcomes if the ref hadnt stopped it early

Im not saying he was right, i did yell to stop the fight also, but these tuing will happen, even the best refs will be late once in a while, sometimes the difference between a early ou late stoppage is just a couple of seconds and the refs wont always have the best angle every time, i know its their job and they have to alays try their best but i dont think its a job that you can always be perfect at, being a ref is ******* hard and the fighters know this also, he said hes sorry and im sure he will continue to be a great ref
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I havent actually watched the fight yet, but I don't think this was such a respectable thing to do. He clearly heard Dana's remarks after the fight and knew that if his boss is unhappy with his performance, then theres a good chance he'll be sent packing. He did this as a last minute plea to keep his job.
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He clearly heard Dana's remarks after the fight and knew that if his boss is unhappy with his performance, then theres a good chance he'll be sent packing. He did this as a last minute plea to keep his job.
Dana isn't his boss. The Nevada State Athletic Commission is.

The UFC have no say who referees their fights, as the refs are employed by the NSAC.


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Dana isn't his boss. The Nevada State Athletic Commission is.

The UFC have no say who referees their fights, as the refs are employed by the NSAC.
Dana: Hey don't send us Josh next time. He has been making a lot of mistakes and he has a lot to learn.
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Please remember that these are humans using their judgement and weighing about a hundred variables in the span of a few seconds when making these decisions.

No excuses here- it was a late stoppage. My point is, these things are absolutely going to happen when people are involved.

Any ref on a given night could have had that same brain cramp.

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Dana: Hey don't send us Josh next time. He has been making a lot of mistakes and he has a lot to learn.
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If Dana had that ability, Mazza would have been gone long ago.

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Dana: Hey don't send us Josh next time. He has been making a lot of mistakes and he has a lot to learn.
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doesn't work like that.


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