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Old 07-25-2012, 04:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Drug results released after would be a huge liability.

Someone gets beaten really severely or possibly killed and then it turns out after the fact that his opponent was loaded up with drugs.
I think you're overstating the effect of PED's. No one is suddenly going to turn into The Incredible Hulk in there.
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Drug results released after would be a huge liability.

Someone gets beaten really severely or possibly killed and then it turns out after the fact that his opponent was loaded up with drugs.
sorry to offend you here, but that's stupid

the UFC crew and medics know their jobs, UFC fighters know how to defend themselves.

I think you're under-estimating the safety that is around the fights just for the sport to be able to exist.

there have been tons of one sided, ragdoll-type beatings in MMA over the years. these guys are trained to sustain damage or inflict it.

But this is also a business. how pissed would all the fans be, those who traveled maybe from other countries, all those who paid the PPV for a given main event, only to see it disappear come fight day?

if someone doesn't want to get hurt and is not ready to be, then that someone should not do MMA on a professional level.

let people do whatever they want and take their own responsibilities FFS !
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sorry to offend you here, but that's stupid

the UFC crew and medics know their jobs, UFC fighters know how to defend themselves.

I think you're under-estimating the safety that is around the fights just for the sport to be able to exist.

there have been tons of one sided, ragdoll-type beatings in MMA over the years. these guys are trained to sustain damage or inflict it.

But this is also a business. how pissed would all the fans be, those who traveled maybe from other countries, all those who paid the PPV for a given main event, only to see it disappear come fight day?

if someone doesn't want to get hurt and is not ready to be, then that someone should not do MMA on a professional level.

let people do whatever they want and take their own responsibilities FFS !
Not offended at all because you're wrong.

People die and/or receive serious life-changing injuries in combat sports semi-regularly. The UFC has been very lucky in that no one has died YET.

But there has been at least one documented MMA death, and in other combat sports like boxing there have been many.

I'm not saying PEDs would make someone somehow magically capable of beating another man to death. I'm saying all mixed martial artists have that potential already.

The liability comes in when the dead fighter's family files a civil suit arguing that the other fighter's PED use contributed to the death of the victim and that the governing body in charge of regulating the fight and the fight promoter/promotion KNEW about the PED positive test, and let the fight happen anyway.

You can argue that till you're blue in the face. But you'd be wrong.

It wouldn't even have to be a death. A guy gets a serious recurring injury that prevents him from continuing his career and after the fact it's revealed that the opponent was using PEDs, that's grounds for the beaten fighter to file civil suits against the UFC, the winning fighter, the athletic commissions, etc.

Like you said, there are safety measures in place in this sport, and allowing fighters to blatantly abuse PEDs and still fight would basically void all those safety measures.

http://www.mmafighting.com/news/2012...th-dakota-news

This may have been before your time, but this shows the danger of unregulated MMA competition.

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