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post #31 of 44 (permalink) Old 07-17-2012, 11:15 AM
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I think Jones has an Aura... you can see people mentally broken as soon as they go to do their first strike and Jones basically defeats it by just pushing his hand out into his opponent's face.
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I think Jones has an Aura... you can see people mentally broken as soon as they go to do their first strike and Jones basically defeats it by just pushing his hand out into his opponent's face.
I actually think he had an aura but with each new fight he looks more beatble IMO...and a lot more predictable too, you can now see the pattern in wich he does his "flashy" moves, rampage did a great job of getting the rythem of his spinning elbow down for example
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It would depend on how he loses and to who he loses to.

If he loses to Jones at LHW, it wouldn't be a big deal, because he would had lost to a much younger, bigger fighter outside his weight class.

If someone like Rashad comes down and wrecks his shit, and Sonnen goes up in weight class and gets blasted by mid tier guys, then that would definitely hurt his legacy. People will start to claim that he ruled a weak division whether it is true or not.

People hate on Fedor for ducking fighters, but he never ducked a fight. He was willing to make the fights happen if a financial agreement that satisfied him and his team was met.

GSP, Silva, and Jones on the other hand don't want to fight because it would hurt their legacy and sponsorship money. If the UFC is not careful, we will end up with the same thing that happens in boxing, the big names will hand pick their opponents and not risk fighting guys that can beat them.
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I don't think losing to Rashad would hurt his legacy or jumping up to 205 and losing to Jones would hurt his legacy. And if loses a decision to Michael Bisping or Alan Belcher or Chris Weidman or Tim Boetsch those won't hurt his legacy much either. What would hurt his legacy if Hector Lombard comes in and just beats the ever loving crap out of him. Fedor would have been fine and GOAT had his loses just been Henderson and Werdum but the Big Foot Silva ended his mystique. He didn't lose to someone special doing something amazing he was just beaten down. If a free agent middleweight comes into the UFC and beats him that is going to hurt him.

Anderson's legacy is not above reproach, he's made things very hard for him not based on his skill as a fighter but rather his character. The temper tantrums in the Ocatgon, the politicking on who he wasn't going to fight and who he felt he should fight, and pulling out of all the fights he's done over the years. We ignore it now....but if he loses that's going to be brought.
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Fedor would have been fine and GOAT had his loses just been Henderson and Werdum but the Big Foot Silva ended his mystique. He didn't lose to someone special doing something amazing he was just beaten down.
Bigfoot is also half a man bigger than Fedor.


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Yes, it will tarnish his unbeaten record. That doesn't mean that he is not amazing. But it's one thing to be unbeaten in the UFC and another to have lost.

Regardless, I wanna see him fight more.
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It would depend on how he loses and to who he loses to.

If he loses to Jones at LHW, it wouldn't be a big deal, because he would had lost to a much younger, bigger fighter outside his weight class.

If someone like Rashad comes down and wrecks his shit, and Sonnen goes up in weight class and gets blasted by mid tier guys, then that would definitely hurt his legacy. People will start to claim that he ruled a weak division whether it is true or not.

People hate on Fedor for ducking fighters, but he never ducked a fight. He was willing to make the fights happen if a financial agreement that satisfied him and his team was met.

GSP, Silva, and Jones on the other hand don't want to fight because it would hurt their legacy and sponsorship money. If the UFC is not careful, we will end up with the same thing that happens in boxing, the big names will hand pick their opponents and not risk fighting guys that can beat them.
Fedor's management team ducked plenty of people... like Brock and Overeem.
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So anyone know the details about why Fedor isn't fighting in the UFC yet?

He dominated Pride for so many years. Now Pride is owned by the UFC mother company. Why don't they have him in the UFC. I know there was some drama between M1 and UFC but I don't quite get what the big deal was???

Would be nice to see him fight Jones, no?
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Bigfoot is also half a man bigger than Fedor.
So were the last two guys that wrecked Bigfoot.

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So anyone know the details about why Fedor isn't fighting in the UFC yet?

He dominated Pride for so many years. Now Pride is owned by the UFC mother company. Why don't they have him in the UFC. I know there was some drama between M1 and UFC but I don't quite get what the big deal was???

Would be nice to see him fight Jones, no?
He just retired. I have to wonder with all these big retirements if we are going to see a rival organization come up.
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Bigfoot is also half a man bigger than Fedor.
And?

Fedor is a Heavyweight. If he's too small for the weight he should've been fighting at 205.


Daniel Cormier is basically the same size as Fedor and wasted Bigfoot in a round.




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I don't think losing to Rashad would hurt his legacy or jumping up to 205 and losing to Jones would hurt his legacy. And if loses a decision to Michael Bisping or Alan Belcher or Chris Weidman or Tim Boetsch those won't hurt his legacy much either. What would hurt his legacy if Hector Lombard comes in and just beats the ever loving crap out of him. Fedor would have been fine and GOAT had his loses just been Henderson and Werdum but the Big Foot Silva ended his mystique. He didn't lose to someone special doing something amazing he was just beaten down. If a free agent middleweight comes into the UFC and beats him that is going to hurt him.

Anderson's legacy is not above reproach, he's made things very hard for him not based on his skill as a fighter but rather his character. The temper tantrums in the Ocatgon, the politicking on who he wasn't going to fight and who he felt he should fight, and pulling out of all the fights he's done over the years. We ignore it now....but if he loses that's going to be brought.

Joke post.

Anderson has never pulled out of a fight unless you count UFC 109 when Dana jumped the gun thinking Anderson would be recovered from elbow surgery.


Such an uneducated poster.



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People hate on Fedor for ducking fighters, but he never ducked a fight. He was willing to make the fights happen if a financial agreement that satisfied him and his team was met.
Yeah that's called ducking bro. He also clearly ducked Overeem for no reason other than he accused him of not being worthy to fight him...despite being the org title holder and clearly the best HW in the organization.

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