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post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old 07-21-2012, 03:00 AM
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I think the point is that one fight does not define a fighter, and that you can be a great fighter without being the greatest.

MMA fans have an all-or-nothing attitude which frankly can be disrespectful to the fighters. They compare strengths and weaknesses as if they are fixed stats in a video game and new fans are looking at fighters that way from the get-go.

MMA is such a dynamic sport, that is the beauty of fighting and sadly it goes unnoticed a lot lately. The winner of a single fight is the better man on the day, nothing more. The winner of 25 fights in a row is by betting standards the better man on any given day, and so has proven himself as one of the great fighters of his time. Comparing opponents does not work.

good post

lombard is right up there. on his day can probably beat anyone. my question is who does he match up well against, or not

anderson is probably a bad match-up for hector because of his range advantage

i think after a couple of fights we will all be agreeing he is the no.2 guy at 185

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That article was a logical mess. They seem to have forgotten halfway through what they were trying to say.

Lombard is the real deal, he's a very skilled fighter. But do his accomplishments merit an instant title shot in the UFC with a win over a middling fighter like Boetsch? Not really. But that's probably what's gonna happen.
Oh yeah but Anderson silva getting a title shot with a win over leben that wasn't even on ppv was worthy?.

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It just took him a lot longer to get to the UFC than most fighters who fight their way up.

But with his record it's obvious that he's UFC calibur fighter.

He's absolutley mauled the MWs of the world.


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Anderson Silva would make Hector look like a can. Silva is a counter puncher and will have a significant reach advantage. Hector is 0-3 vs B level fighters or recognizable names. The man has been beating up cans and looking good in the process.

Anderson Silva has been beating up A level fighters and making them look like cans.
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Oh yeah but Anderson silva getting a title shot with a win over leben that wasn't even on ppv was worthy?.
A couple reasons make this a bad comparison.

Anderson was considered one of the best 170lbers before he came to teh UFC. He beat top guys like Sakuria, Newton, Lee Murray. So he had better wins than Lombard coming into the UFC.

That was also in a time when the UFC and MMA as a whole was a lot thinner. Not as many fighters. Not as many quality fighters. Not close to the quality and depth it is today. So a quicker title shot was more warranted.
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A couple reasons make this a bad comparison.

Anderson was considered one of the best 170lbers before he came to teh UFC. He beat top guys like Sakuria, Newton, Lee Murray. So he had better wins than Lombard coming into the UFC.

That was also in a time when the UFC and MMA as a whole was a lot thinner. Not as many fighters. Not as many quality fighters. Not close to the quality and depth it is today. So a quicker title shot was more warranted.
Just as a point of note the UFC did not make the decision for Anderson to face Franklin. It was actually a poll on UFC.com where people could choose Anderson's next opponent. Everybody wanted to see him fight Franklin.

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