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Old 07-21-2012, 05:16 AM   #21 (permalink)
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They said the test results would be released after the fight, so the testing does not affect the current fight at all. The only thing that could be affected is if the winner pops hot then it could be turned to a No Contest. The PPV buys are all the same, nobody has to pull out of a fight and leave the UFC looking for a short notice replacement.

Don't we want the cheaters to get caught and punished?
Source? The only articles I can find state that BJ's negotiations with VADA are at a standstill (his own words) because they insist on releasing results before the fight.

Edit: Oh, and according to Bloody Elbow Rory agreed to the testing too.
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:16 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Here is an idea let's wait to see if he ever does pop positive instead of crucifying the guy on hearsay, coincidence and gut feelings?
This I can get down with.

Roflcopter definitely could have approached the creation of the thread a little better, like giving his points and posing a question to us about whether the UFC is protecting Rory or not rather than coming out and making accusations.

But just cos he got douchey, doesn't mean his points are nonsense.
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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If you post something colossally stupid you can expect people to call it what it is. And that OP was a doozy.

The reason for BJ not agreeing to VADAs terms are clear - a conflict of interests. Penn is an employee of the UFC, VADA's release policy could potentially cost the UFC a lot of money. For an employee to spring a potentially harmful act on his employer is a bad idea in any business.
man, one of the only posts of the whole thread that actually makes sense.

that conspiracy theory about rory was fun tho
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:26 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Source? The only articles I can find state that BJ's negotiations with VADA are at a standstill (his own words) because they insist on releasing results before the fight.

Edit: Oh, and according to Bloody Elbow Rory agreed to the testing too.
If this is the case then there is no argument to be had. I did a search just then and have only found similar things.

I've been playing the devil's advocate from the get go.
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BJ Penn didnt 'Cancel" the Vada testing.

He just asked for the results to be release POST fight instead of PRE fight. Which is a fair thing to ask SINCE that affects the UFC directly. Imagine VADA sponsors a HUGE main event fight and the results come out a week or 2 before the fight. Now the UFC is out of huge money and stuck replacing a huge fight in a weeks time.

It puts the company in a extremely vulnerable position.
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This is what I thought.

But if BJ has actually cancelled the testing then I think you guys are giving Roflcopter an unnecessarily hard time. He has raised some decent points.

(I don't even like Roflcopter and I do like Rory Mac)
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:28 AM   #25 (permalink)

 
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Source? The only articles I can find state that BJ's negotiations with VADA are at a standstill (his own words) because they insist on releasing results before the fight.

Edit: Oh, and according to Bloody Elbow Rory agreed to the testing too.
Exactly what I thought. I can't find an article saying what MRBRESK has said. If anyone knows of one, mind posting the link?
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BJ Penn didnt 'Cancel" the Vada testing.

He just asked for the results to be release POST fight instead of PRE fight. Which is a fair thing to ask SINCE that affects the UFC directly. Imagine VADA sponsors a HUGE main event fight and the results come out a week or 2 before the fight and turns out someone popped positive. Now the UFC is out of huge money and stuck replacing a huge fight in a weeks time.

It puts the company in a extremely vulnerable position.
I forgot to add that bit.
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You obviously put a lot of work into this thread so + 1 for that.

But I can't see how feeding Rory to Carlos Condit was protecting him. Rory waaaay over-performed in that fight and only collapsed in like that last 10 seconds.

However, I'll agree that since that fight, he's been given hand-picked opponents.

I don't see the point in protecting him, personally, as the second he emerged as a threat to GSP, old Georges brought him in and became 'friends' so now they'll never fight. So what's the point?

Not a fan of either GSP or Rory tbh, but that has a lot to do with the fact I'm in Canada, and it's hard to like either of them here unless you're a total homer because the media here hypes them up to absurd amounts just because they're Canadian.

I think Diaz would have smashed GSP personally, and while I don't think Penn will beat Rory, I would love it if he did.

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Old 07-21-2012, 07:19 AM   #28 (permalink)
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BJ's initial tweet where he was for VADA testing showed he didn't know much about the testing. He wanted results withheld until after the fight then.

If the UFC didn't want the testing and could pressure him into changing his mind, why would they have given him an excuse to use before he ever publicized the offer? Why not just get him to never extend the offer publicly and nobody would ever know about it?
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BJ's initial tweet where he was for VADA testing showed he didn't know much about the testing. He wanted results withheld until after the fight then.

If the UFC didn't want the testing and could pressure him into changing his mind, why would they have given him an excuse to use before he ever publicized the offer? Why not just get him to never extend the offer publicly and nobody would ever know about it?
I dont get exactly what you are trying to say.


The UFC had nothing to do with the VADA testing. According to them they didnt even know about it.
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