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Old 07-24-2012, 10:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Riddle would school Hardy, I think Hardy is scared. Hardy is not some world class striker, and the rest of his game other than heart and grit is mediocre (at the UFC level). While Riddle isn't the best striker either, he is more technical than Hardy and uses a more diverse striking game. Add to that the instant better transition and ground game and it becomes the old Hardy only has one way to win versus his opponent having 20.

I also agree with the other statements about Hardy having no right to try and pick his opponents. Right now he needs to smile that "butter tooth" smile and say "Yes Mr.Dana and Mr.Silva, I will fight whoever and whenever you tell me. Thank you for this great paying job that allows me to take care of my family even though you cut other guys for less." I don't mind Hardy talking smack, go for it, but to deny a fight? He needs to remember he is 1-4 in his last 5 fights.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Maybe somebody needs to sit Hardy down and let him know that he's overrated. The guy is horrible on the ground, knows it and will try and avoid any fight where the guy could possibly take him down and dominate him.

He needs to fight anybody, and often at this point. If he wants to become relevant again he needs to put his ego aside, work his ass off on his ground game and be as active fighting as possible. Realistically, he was gifted his title shot, has complained everytime somebody takes him down and has been knocked out by strikers when he stands with them.

He has beat guys like Ludwig, Swick, Davis, Markham, Gono. Where in the division are/were those guys?

Above him in the division are a bunch of dudes that are top tier wrestlers and top tier strikers. How does he think he'd fare against Fitch, Koscheck, Ellenberger, Diaz, Condit (oops lol), Rory, Hendricks? He needs to fight guys like Riddle and dominate them if he's going to even be considered for a fight with any of those guys. Or maybe he can fight Siyar and see how his chin holds up. Or maybe he wants Maia....

Anyways my point is that fighting Amir Sadollah and maybe beating him will not move him up any quicker then a fight with Riddle. If he's not careful Amir might actually keep his chin tucked in and he'll be in over his head with a more technical striker.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I still don't get how people can say he has no right to choose his opponets.

So Hardy...with an opponent in line. Can't say a Riddle fight makes no sense. But Riddle is in a position to make his own fights? How does that make sense?

The UFC hasn't offered him that fight. Hardy is in TRAINING as we speak...for another fight.

So how in the world is he picking his fights? Or turning down a fight he was never offered?

How can you guys come to that conclusion? The man is getting ready for a whole different fight. WHat is he supposed to say? "yea, riddle, you weirdo, I'd love to fight you...I'll cancel my upcoming fight so you can have your wish"...

I mean come on people...lets get real.
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I still don't get how people can say he has no right to choose his opponets.

So Hardy...with an opponent in line. Can't say a Riddle fight makes no sense. But Riddle is in a position to make his own fights? How does that make sense?

The UFC hasn't offered him that fight. Hardy is in TRAINING as we speak...for another fight.

So how in the world is he picking his fights? Or turning down a fight he was never offered?

How can you guys come to that conclusion? The man is getting ready for a whole different fight. WHat is he supposed to say? "yea, riddle, you weirdo, I'd love to fight you...I'll cancel my upcoming fight so you can have your wish"...

I mean come on people...lets get real.
You're right, he did not technically turn down a fight. What he did do is imply that he has no interest in fighting Riddle because there is no "value" in it for him.

This leads me to beleive that if the UFC approached Hardy with a fight with Riddle due to Riddle calling Hardy out that Hardy would turn the fight down because there is no "value" in it. This coming from a guy who lost 4 straight fights which would have led to most fighters being cut.

I think Hardy lacks perspective of where his career is right now. He lost 4 straight fights which sends him to the bottom of the WW division. What he should be saying is he will take any fight the UFC wants to give him.

Plus you would think Hardy would want to get in there with a wrestler to prove he can beat one because if he cant beat Riddle there is no way in hell he will make it bake to the top when you consider he would have to beat the likes of Kos, Fitch, Hendricks, Ellenberger, Peirce, etc.
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I still don't get how people can say he has no right to choose his opponets.

So Hardy...with an opponent in line. Can't say a Riddle fight makes no sense. But Riddle is in a position to make his own fights? How does that make sense?

The UFC hasn't offered him that fight. Hardy is in TRAINING as we speak...for another fight.

So how in the world is he picking his fights? Or turning down a fight he was never offered?

How can you guys come to that conclusion? The man is getting ready for a whole different fight. WHat is he supposed to say? "yea, riddle, you weirdo, I'd love to fight you...I'll cancel my upcoming fight so you can have your wish"...

I mean come on people...lets get real.
It isn't that we expect him or the UFC to cancel the fight with Amir. It is that Hardy could have put out a different message like, "After I KO Amir I have no problem KO'ing Riddle." or "If you guys want to see this 'Butter tooth Britt' KO Riddle let DW know".

Not what his current message is being perceived as, "Matt Riddle is below me and only trying to call me out to make a name for himself." No shit Hardy, then again he is just as guilty as anyone of that, it's the way the game is played.

In short, Hardy's message came across wrong and with many fans he is on an already short leash in terms of viewability (that's right, I made up a word).
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You're right, he did not technically turn down a fight. What he did do is imply that he has no interest in fighting Riddle because there is no "value" in it for him.

This leads me to beleive that if the UFC approached Hardy with a fight with Riddle due to Riddle calling Hardy out that Hardy would turn the fight down because there is no "value" in it. This coming from a guy who lost 4 straight fights which would have led to most fighters being cut.

I think Hardy lacks perspective of where his career is right now. He lost 4 straight fights which sends him to the bottom of the WW division. What he should be saying is he will take any fight the UFC wants to give him.

Plus you would think Hardy would want to get in there with a wrestler to prove he can beat one because if he cant beat Riddle there is no way in hell he will make it bake to the top when you consider he would have to beat the likes of Kos, Fitch, Hendricks, Ellenberger, Peirce, etc.
If the UFC said hey Dan, we want you to fight Riddle. I would bet he wouldn't turn it down. Just because he said the fight isn't on his radar doesn't mean he would turn it down if the UFC asked him. I think it is unfair to assume he would.

What we have is goofball Riddle who is the one trying to get a win over a guy people know. He is calling out Hardy because a fan spit on him. What does that have to do with Hardy?

If I were in Hardy's shoes. Training for a totally different fight coming up. And a guy liek Riddle with NO NAME value called me out because a guy spit on him...I'd laugh.

What is the point in calling a guy out who is n the middle of training for a fight anyway?

I also don't understand why people think Hardy is SO bad on the ground. Because GSP dominated him? Because AJ, an athletic 205er took him down and sat on him? It isn't like Dan is getting out-wrestled by average WWs. His grappling isn't good...but at the same time I don't think he is totally helpless.
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It isn't that we expect him or the UFC to cancel the fight with Amir. It is that Hardy could have put out a different message like, "After I KO Amir I have no problem KO'ing Riddle." or "If you guys want to see this 'Butter tooth Britt' KO Riddle let DW know".

Not what his current message is being perceived as, "Matt Riddle is below me and only trying to call me out to make a name for himself." No shit Hardy, then again he is just as guilty as anyone of that, it's the way the game is played.

In short, Hardy's message came across wrong and with many fans he is on an already short leash in terms of viewability (that's right, I made up a word).
If Hardy turned down an actual offer from the UFC my opinion would change.

But he is right. Dan Hardy has fought for a title. Dan Hardy still gets top spots on card. Dan Hardy gets paid more. He certainly is above Riddle in terms of popularity. You are what you are paid. The UFC obviously thinks he is a big enough name to have kept him around.

I just have a problem with people saying "oh Dan isn't in a position to choose fights"

When HE WASN'T EVEN OFFERED THE FIGHT! And HAS A FIGHT COMING UP.

If a guy is going to come in and badmouth you and your country...then why is he not allowed to throw a jab back by saying Riddle isn't a name?

I find Riddle more out of line thinking he can call out guys who are in the middle of training for a fight. Or acting like he can call out fighters and the UFC should make the fight.

If anyone is out of line it is Riddle.
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If Hardy turned down an actual offer from the UFC my opinion would change.

But he is right. Dan Hardy has fought for a title. Dan Hardy still gets top spots on card. Dan Hardy gets paid more. He certainly is above Riddle in terms of popularity. You are what you are paid. The UFC obviously thinks he is a big enough name to have kept him around.

I just have a problem with people saying "oh Dan isn't in a position to choose fights"

When HE WASN'T EVEN OFFERED THE FIGHT! And HAS A FIGHT COMING UP.

If a guy is going to come in and badmouth you and your country...then why is he not allowed to throw a jab back by saying Riddle isn't a name?

I find Riddle more out of line thinking he can call out guys who are in the middle of training for a fight. Or acting like he can call out fighters and the UFC should make the fight.

If anyone is out of line it is Riddle.
I'll make it easy for you. Go look at how many times since entering the UFC that Dan Hardy has called our Matt Hughes. Sure he can make any reason for it he wants, but he has done it time and time again. The only higher person at WW you can call out is GSP, but Hardy, like most WW'ers, call out Hughes because he is a name.

So Hardy can stop acting so insulted it happened to him and instead try to be funny like he normally does. This cowardice does not suit his persona well.
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