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Old 07-25-2012, 06:03 AM   #41 (permalink)
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It's on TV for fecks sake! All the camera man has to do is zoom in a little and the fighters are relatively no smaller on screen then the bigger fighters.

This argument that watching small guys doesn't appeal?... On TV?? It's utterly ridiculous.

Lack of knock out power or big names are better excuses.
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:13 AM   #42 (permalink)
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It's on TV for fecks sake! All the camera man has to do is zoom in a little and the fighters are relatively no smaller on screen then the bigger fighters.

This argument that watching small guys doesn't appeal?... On TV?? It's utterly ridiculous.

Lack of knock out power or big names are better excuses.
That's complete nonsense. Are you seriously trying to argue that zooming in will make someone like Dodson not look like a midget? Get that weak stuff out of here.
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:52 AM   #43 (permalink)
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That's complete nonsense. Are you seriously trying to argue that zooming in will make someone like Dodson not look like a midget? Get that weak stuff out of here.
No. I'm saying that there are two dudes throwing down. If they are roughly the same size what god damn difference does it make whether they are MW or FW? Especially when watching on TV.

I can dig arguments about skill sets, punching power, name value etc. But some people in this thread are saying they don't like it simply because the dudes are small? That right there is what you call complete nonsense bro.
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:59 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I like lighter weights. Those guys usually have a relentless pace and their technique is second to none. Some guys in the heavier divisions rely more on power than technique.

Give it a few years for the divisions to grow depth. People will catch on.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:04 AM   #45 (permalink)
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A fight is a fight. If the weight class determines whether you'll watch/enjoy it, you're not a fight fan.
well, that's a little excessive

it's not because you "prefer" some types of fights than you're not a fight fan.

some people prefer standup wars, other enjoy ground oriented, strategic battles, some prefer lighter classes, others prefer heavier ones.

I'd still watch full events prelims included, even that 100% heavyweight one was cool.

technique is coming together at HW tho with guys like JDS, Overeem, Werdum or Nelson

but look at it this way, you need much more energy to move around a 250lbs body and limbs than you need for 125lbs, and HW pack much more firepower due to their muscular and overall mass. So as it was said before, some of them could hang in there relying on nothing else than power and poor technique.

but this is changing for the better and it's nice to see that change.

but in the lighter class, no one could rely on pure power, they ALL had to acquire a higher level of technique only to be able to get in the UFC. You don't see transfuges from NFL to UFC in the lighter classes don't you?

heavier athletes have a much wider field of athletic opportunities in front of them than the little guys and much of the athletic talent is lost to other sports IMO

and it's only recent than we started to see more and more talented heavy fighters (aside from a few ones that were there from a long time and who basically ruled MMA HW leages with an iron fist in their times, guys like cro cop, fedor, couture and whatnot -who could probably have fought at 205 more than HW)


I like the current UFC HW roster, but I still prefer watching fights from the deepest divisions, LW or WW
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I was under the impression that most harcore MMA fans loved the lighter weight classes, after reading even just the first page I see that's not the case.

Personally I love all weights, if anything I prefer to watch MW and under because the fighters are more skilled, you don't have many Joey Beltran types. (Then again there's still Leonard Garcia, Chris Leben and others).... but in general I think the technique that lighter guys employ is more crisp and fluid and they also generally have better gas tanks.
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I was under the impression that most harcore MMA fans loved the lighter weight classes, after reading even just the first page I see that's not the case.
same here, this thread really surprised me. I thought that especially here, we would see people enjoying most of the weight classes whereas it seems that many just wouldn't have the lighter classes if it was up to them.

in boxing at a time, HW had some sort of "aura", but in MMA I never felt it. Sure they tried to do a big deal out of HW but I never felt it really took off.

looks like I was wrong.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:34 PM   #48 (permalink)
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The problem with the lighter weight classes for me as I already pointed out, is that there's a much grander history in the 155-265 weight divisions and the direction/fighters in those divisions mean a lot more to me than the lighter ones.

I've seen some really good fights below 155, but if you had two UFC cards showing the same day, one with weight classes under 155 and one with classes above 155, I'd choose the one above every single time.
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Yeah this was sad to see...hardcore MMA fans buying into the HW hype and all...i cant even imagine how embarassed they were that lesnar was champ lol...if even hardcore fans think like this you have to wonder how hard it is to sell these little guys to the casual fan...though every time thy fight the crowd usually goes crazy, go figure
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:37 PM   #50 (permalink)
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...I dig the lighterweights. Especially now with the volcano of talent thats flooded those divisions. They just matchup well and it's a tough chess game. I really think Dana should throw in a women's MMA match on some pre-lims once in a while. Imagine the serious ratings they could rake in with a primetime FOX debut of Ronda Rousey. I personally think Ronda would be a perfect way to debut a women's division in the UFC. Imagine if Tate vs. Rousey was on FOX. The ratings would have gone off the charts...
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