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Old 03-15-2007, 04:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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personally, i think mario yamasaki is a terrible and insecure ref. take a look at the chuck/tito 2 fight, he was going to stop it after tito fell in the first round u can tell as he ran toward chuck , which would have been a bad stoppage. then, he stops the fight in the 3rd round, and that was also a terrible stoppage, tito was defending himself.
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:27 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I like Big John, but this does remind me of something I noticed with the Couture Silvia fight

It appeared as though Big John was coaching Randy to put his knee on the mat so Silvia wouldn't be able to knee him in the head.
Did anyone else notice that?

I didn't like that..
Big john wasn't couching anybody, couture had four points on the ground, hands and feet, making it illegal for sylvia to knee randy. John probably saw that tim wanted to knee randy and stated that there are no knees from that position. Randy probably dropped his knee because timmy was leaning all that weight on him to keep randy from taking im down, nothing dirty at all going on.
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Big john wasn't couching anybody, couture had four points on the ground, hands and feet, making it illegal for sylvia to knee randy. John probably saw that tim wanted to knee randy and stated that there are no knees from that position. Randy probably dropped his knee because timmy was leaning all that weight on him to keep randy from taking im down, nothing dirty at all going on.
If Randy had four points on the ground, then my mistake but I remember it differently. At the time it looked like he did not. I'll have to find the fight and check
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:44 PM   #24 (permalink)
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John Mccarthy is a great referee, Herb Dean is alright. Steve Mazagati and mario yamasaki are the ones that need to go.
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:24 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Are you sure? At that point Couture was standing on his feet and immediately after John said watch out he put his knee down. That's how I remember it

Knees are only illegal against a downed opponent, yes?
Couture wasn't on his knee he was on his hands and feet. All he said was watch the knees
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:37 PM   #27 (permalink)
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He just has the skill needed to ref, i mean he's not perfect, but he's the best in the business, he makes more right desicions and understands the game very well.
I can agree with that. Good way of putting it.
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Randy did have all 4 points on the ground so it would have been illegal to knee him in the head (that rule needs to go, seriously) at that point. I've watched the fight several times. Big John did a good job telling Big Tim to watch the knees.

That being said I still think Herb Dean is an overall better ref. I'm not knocking John, he's really good too.
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Big John is awesome but the 'best in the business' is easy that little Jap ref in Pride. I love him.
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Big John is awesome but the 'best in the business' is easy that little Jap ref in Pride. I love him.
Agreed. Yuji Shimada is the man. Repped.
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