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**Soojooko** · 08-03-2012, 10:41 AM

One of my favourite pieces from a fighter:-

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Gray Maynard remembers one of the first conversations with his boxing coach, Gil Martinez, almost like it happened yesterday. Unbeaten in three UFC fights following his stint on the fifth season of The Ultimate Fighter, “The Bully” was just that in the Octagon – a hard-charging wrestler who swung for the cheap seats with every punch.

And since no one was proving otherwise to him, he figured he had come upon a formula that would allow him to sail right to the top of the lightweight division, and he let Martinez know it.

“I came to him and I said ‘don’t even worry about me, I can take a punch,’” recalled Maynard with a smile. “He looked at me like he never heard that before and he said, ‘Hey, this is just me talking, but you don’t have to take a punch.’”

That response came as a shock to the fighter.

“Yeah, but it’s all good, trust me,” he said, and got ready to spar with an 18-year old boxer who was in the Las Vegas gym that day.

“He was skinny, scrawny,” laughed Maynard. “I said ‘I’ll take it easy on this guy Gil, don’t worry about it.”

You can probably figure out what happened next.

“He just lit me up, and this kid went easy on me too,” said Maynard. “This kid hit harder than anybody I ever went with, and I’ve sparred with Wanderlei (Silva), (Randy) Couture, and just the accuracy, pop, and snap he had, and how hard he was to hit, I just grabbed it right there and said wow, so that’s boxing, that’s hands, and that’s how it can be. It opened my eyes to what you can be if you slow it down, learn, and know that this is a sport with technique.”

Technique and timing generate far more power then raw strength. Of course, it helps to have raw strength on top of excellent technique... but Shane Carwin is not that man.

GrappleRetarded · 08-03-2012, 11:06 AM

Top 10? Andy would probably be a top 3 HW. I can see some one likes Cain Velasquez giving him fits, but I can see him pretty much blitzing most other HW's.

**Ape City** · 08-03-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MRBRESK

He would beat the strikers and lose to the grapplers.

Cormier, Cain, Barnett and any powerful wrestler would beat him.

He's a better striker than JDS so Anderson V Junior on the feet most likely = a victory for Andy.. considering Anderson would be 6'2 230lbs with 78inch reach and JDS is 6'4 240lbs and same reach.

I dunno if Werdum, Bigfoot Mir, Big Country etc. have the speed to take him down, Anderson's movement is excellent and he has equal reach to pretty much everyone in the division.

I know i'm a huge Anderson fan but I feel like i'm being fair, what do you guys think?

Man this. All. Day. Said it perfectly.

H33LHooK · 08-03-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Roflcopter

He's already fought at LHW.

If you had any ability to think you'd realize that his in-octagon weight for his LHW fight would likely be the same as what he would fight at HW. Probably around 210-220lbs.

Much like King Mo(215) and Dan Henderson(208) when they fought at HW.

So no, he's not going to be a fat out of shape guy with no reflexes or speed.

Not sure why you're choosing to be so abrasive.

You have no idea what will happen; you're guessing based on your opinions... just like the rest of us.

Go ask AS how he would rank himself at HW. He'd probably just laugh because it's an absurd, hypothetical question, that we can never have an answer to, because it will never happen.

That's the fun of it. Stop pissing on the parade, Debbie Downer.

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**americanfighter** · 08-03-2012, 01:14 PM

No.

The wrestlers up there would take him down and tko him without much effort.

**Soojooko** · 08-03-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by americanfighter

No.

The wrestlers up there would take him down and tko him without much effort.

Name them.

**americanfighter** · 08-03-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Soojooko

One of my favourite pieces from a fighter:-

Technique and timing generate far more power then raw strength. Of course, it helps to have raw strength on top of excellent technique... but Shane Carwin is not that man.

I think Carwin would beat silva with little trouble butnot the way he beats others because he would have to use his wrestling skills. If he come in swinging silva could get out of the way and move around but silva would not be able to avoid getting takendown by this monster.

**americanfighter** · 08-03-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Soojooko

Name them.

The have already been named throughout the thread Josh Cain etcetera

**Soojooko** · 08-03-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by americanfighter

I think Carwin would beat silva with little trouble butnot the way he beats others because he would have to use his wrestling skills. If he come in swinging silva could get out of the way and move around but silva would not be able to avoid getting takendown by this monster.

I completely disagree. The cage is big and Silva is nimble. I think Welder boy would struggle to get his hands on him.

But still, assuming Carwin was any good, who are the others? Because to me, right now, aside from Cain the rest of the UFC HW's are not excellent wrestlers.