Originally Posted by Liddellianenko
I meant patchy record in the UFC. He's 4-4, with one of those 4 wins a terrible wheezefest over a 45 year old Coleman, and another a win over a retiree that got KOd the previous fight and next and then retired. His UFC record IS patchy.
He also gave us a destruction of Forest, a legendary fight with Machida, which he then avenged and served Machida his first lost in brutal fashion. And he gave us a great fight with Henderson.
Look at all the other top LHWs. Machida has now two brutal losses and a loss to Rampage.
Rampage has a loss to Forest, Evans, Jones and Bader and pathetic performances over Jardine and Hamill.
Randy was inconsistent at LHW. Chuck finished his career getting destroyed.
Little Nog was supposed to come in and tear up the division and work his way to the title. Now hes fallen off the map.
Shogun is no more inconsistent than anyone else thats not Jones.
Yes a win over Glover doesnt get him a title shot but a win over Brandon Vera does? Vera just lost 3 in a row and was almost cut before a boring win over a C level. How is that a better claim for a title shot? The only reason he's been promised a shot is Dana trying to sell this card as something of consequence.
And Vera has fought Mir, Couture, Sylvia, Werdum, Jones...etc, been in main events and is known. Glover hasn't ever beaten anyone worth mentioning and no one knows who he is. Thats a terrible fight for a former champion.
When it comes to heart, yes the Bones fight was rough but the Forrest 1 and Coleman 2 fights were also bad displays of heart. One swingfest against Hendo is all anyone seems to remember though.
Shogun is good but nowhere near this pedestal Vera is putting him on and his fans do.
Coleman is a show of heart. Shogun was fresh off a surgery, which played a big factor considering after that he went out and wrecked Chuck and had a great fight with Machida. Bad knees and no gas tank and Shogun still went out there and kept coming and finished the fight. Thats what heart is.... I guess you don't know.
The only problem with the first Forest fight is thats when Forest actually had heart too. If you gas against someone like who Forest used to be, you're gonna get beat.