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post #301 of 332 (permalink) Old 08-12-2012, 11:56 AM
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Yep, rocking him on two separate occasions and planting him on his associates multiple time with leg kicks, not to mention spending a round trying to choke him highlighted the "point fighting" mentality a great deal.

Side note, I see you spreading a lot of dislike for Frankie Edgar on the board right now. Try to take a step back and look at that fight without bias because it seems to be getting the better of you and your arguments.

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I gave it 3 rounds to 2 to Frankie and thought he had the more clear round victories. That is the state of MMA now though you can beat a guy twice and somehow lose both fights.
Beat a guy twice? Henderson clearly won the first fight, it wasn't decisive, but the winner of that fight was obvious and it was Ben.
I'll have to watch the fight again and analyze it more to say who, imo, had the edge this time, but I definitely don't see how some can cry about this being a robbery. Ben clearly won the 1st round, obviously Frankie won the 2nd round. The others were very close, I think I gave round 4 to Frankie, and as a champ I can totally see why the judges gave rounds 3 and 5 to Ben, because like I said, they were very close.
Not as bad a robbery as some are acting like it is, not even talking about the 1st fight..
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Just finished watching the event. Feel sorry for Edgar. I like Benson as a fighter but no way did he win that fight. Frankie won 3 rounds minimum, I actually scored it 4-1 in favour of Frankie.

Must be so frustrating after putting your soul into preparing for the fight, going out and clearly winning...then it's taken away from you. Very poor judging.
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Beat a guy twice? Henderson clearly won the first fight, it wasn't decisive, but the winner of that fight was obvious and it was Ben.
I'll have to watch the fight again and analyze it more to say who, imo, had the edge this time, but I definitely don't see how some can cry about this being a robbery. Ben clearly won the 1st round, obviously Frankie won the 2nd round. The others were very close, I think I gave round 4 to Frankie, and as a champ I can totally see why the judges gave rounds 3 and 5 to Ben, because like I said, they were very close.
Not as bad a robbery as some are acting like it is, not even talking about the 1st fight..

Henderson didn't clearly win anything.

The fifth wasn't even a close round Bendo got worked pretty hard for the vast majority of it. I gave the fourth to Bendo because in the last minute and a half or so Frankie got damaged pretty good and had his feet stopped from it he was winning the rest of the round though so it was close. The third I just don't see how anyone can give that to Bendo he landed basically nothing in the second half of it.
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Also, Frankie Edgar really doesn't do well against good kickers.

If you go back to the Edgar/Griffin fight, Tyson had some huge success with his kicks.

In the first Bendo fight he couldn't adjust to the kicking ability of Bendo and in the second fight he didn't look good either. He seemed to adjust in the later rounds, but always had real trouble with finding his range (in both fights).

I think it's quite important to note if he does end up dropping to FW and fighting Jose Aldo. I believe Aldo would absolutely have his way with Frankie and batter him with kicks all fight long.
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The fight could have gone either way IMO. I'm sure Rogan's awfully biased commentary played a part in swaying a lot of you guys. Every time Edgar landed a shot, he would say something about what a nice shot it was. When Henderson landed a shot, he was dead silent. Rogan just gets worse and worse at his job.
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I had Bendo winning the 1st fight 3-2 and it wasent that close, I had no doubt in my mind. But in the rematch I had Edgar winning the 2nd fight 3-2 but it was more close. If their was a 1/2 point system then Bendo won rounds with full points but this time Edgar won rounds with 1/2 points, but I still felt Edgar edged it out. Too bad for Edgar, but the LW Division has to move on now.
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Thankfully when I saw the event live I didn't have to hear Rogan's commentary from my seats. However, I just watched it at my friend's place and Rogan's commentary was absolutely horrible, almost as bad as it was on UFC on FOX 4. Still, watching the fight on TV, I still am on the fence on who I think won but I'm leaning towards a 3-2 for Bendo, giving him the first, third, and fifth rounds. I'll probably watch it again and see it differently but the only rounds I saw Frankie winning were rounds two and four.

This is also coming from an Atheist and a big Frankie fan.
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Both these guys are great but the outcome is the outcome Benson has 2 wins against Edgar like it or not and will face Diaz now.


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Both these guys are great but the outcome is the outcome Benson has 2 wins against Edgar like it or not and will face Diaz now.
Yup exactly. Edgar has been relegated to BJ Penn/Jon Fitch/Rich Franklin territory at lightweight, with two losses to the current champ.

I'm sure if he stays in the division he can work his way back to a title shot. But he's at the very, very back of the line even if most people think the call went the wrong way. It is what it is.
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