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post #311 of 332 (permalink) Old 08-12-2012, 01:54 PM
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Yup exactly. Edgar has been relegated to BJ Penn/Jon Fitch/Rich Franklin territory at lightweight, with two losses to the current champ.

I'm sure if he stays in the division he can work his way back to a title shot. But he's at the very, very back of the line even if most people think the call went the wrong way. It is what it is.
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post #312 of 332 (permalink) Old 08-12-2012, 01:59 PM
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Just watched the fight, mind you this opinion is coming from an Edgar fan, but that was a coin toss of a decision. Someone was going to feel like shit after the fight because that was a really close performance.

Round 1: Benson
Round 2: Frankie
Round 3: ??????
Round 4: ??????
Round 5: ??????

Real technical fight for sure. I just can't be upset with the decision, it was a real coin toss; probably the closest fight I've ever seen. That was a true split decision victory and it could have gone either way. If they called it a draw people would have been more pissed off than they are now, so I'm glad they didn't and gave it to one of them.

I think the real problem was the decision in the first fight, which I believe Edgar won, so it kind of sucks for his professional record to be tainted with a unanimous decision loss that he should've won, or at the very least was a draw. On paper it looks like he got beat decisively the first time by Benson, and then couldn't convince the judges he deserved the belt in the 2nd fight which couldn't be further from the truth. I feel for Edgar, poor guy fights his ass off and has to put up with these ****ed up calls, what can you do?

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There's an old saying."To be the champion, you have to BEAT the champion" take that for what you will, but razor thin decisions almost always go to the champ

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As lovely as that saying may be, the judges don't follow that. They're just incapable of scoring fights correctly on a consistent basis. This was a close fight, but Frankie won it.

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So on my personal scorecard Frankie is now 7 rounds to 3 against Benson.

Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it... ah, what the heck.





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I honestly just don't see how everyone can be so set on edgar winning the fight. The fight could have gone either way.

round 1 : Henderson hits more often, end the round attempting a submission.

1-0 Bendo

round 2 : Edgar outstrikes hendo 12-7, and he also gets the knockdown.

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round 3-5 : Razor thin. This is where it comes down to the judges giving points for the more powerful shots or frankies pitter patter.

You have 2 definitive rounds and 3 rounds that could have gone either way. Even if we wanted to say edgar won the 5th, 3/4 were 15-13 Edgar, with bendo hitting 3 more shots to the head than edgar, and 4 was 17-17 with bendo hitting more headshots/having more significant strikes.




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Well I just watched the fight and am not biased towards either fight.

After the first round I though, clearly Hendo is going to win this fight. He's bigger, stronger ...but then Edgar does what he does man.

I personally thought he won the next 4 rounds.

He's like a mosquito, and it's hard to tell he's landing punches. But I think he got robbed.

I don't particularly like either of these guys, and I think Bendo is a better ambassador for the sport, but at least one of the judges got it right.
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For me I thought Edgar took rounds 2,3,4 & 5.

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I don't know. The only reason it was so close was because neither guy really stepped up and took it to the other. They were both fighting not to lose, and they were both fighting way to cautiously.

I wasn't impressed with either guys performance and based on that, no way could I turn the belt over to Frankie when he refused to commit to more than 1 or 2 strikes before backing off. But if Ben continues to defend in this style, I won't be a fan of his for long either.

In my opinion, these guys have spent 10 rounds in the octagon trying not to lose. This is the exact reason why it's so hard to score.

When you have Joe Rogan, during a 5 minute round, saying that 1 kick that was kind of hard might be the difference, you know neither guy is really going for it. I can't give a guy round for 1 kick that was kind of hard.

Will someone just burst forward and unleash and try to knock the f-in shit out of the other guy and stop trying to score points!@!!!!!!!!!!

Point fighting is for teenage Tae Kwon Do tournaments, not for the UFC. If even one of these 2 guys actually tried to finish the other we wouldn't be having this debate. It's only because neither tried to win and it takes 2 to fight.

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I don't know. The only reason it was so close was because neither guy really stepped up and took it to the other. They were both fighting not to lose, and they were both fighting way to cautiously.

I wasn't impressed with either guys performance and based on that, no way could I turn the belt over to Frankie when he refused to commit to more than 1 or 2 strikes before backing off. But if Ben continues to defend in this style, I won't be a fan of his for long either.

In my opinion, these guys have spent 10 rounds in the octagon trying not to lose. This is the exact reason why it's so hard to score.

When you have Joe Rogan, during a 5 minute round, saying that 1 kick that was kind of hard might be the difference, you know neither guy is really going for it. I can't give a guy round for 1 kick that was kind of hard.

Will someone just burst forward and unleash and try to knock the f-in shit out of the other guy and stop trying to score points!@!!!!!!!!!!

Point fighting is for teenage Tae Kwon Do tournaments, not for the UFC. If even one of these 2 guys actually tried to finish the other we wouldn't be having this debate. It's only because neither tried to win and it takes 2 to fight.
Frankie tried to choke him out twice, knocked him down multiple times with shots trying to finish him, and Bendo also tried to choke him out with a sub.

Trying has nothing to do with it, it's fighting someone who is at the top of their game at the top of the division in the top organization in the sport, that made them not finish.
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