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post #31 of 36 (permalink) Old 08-09-2012, 10:32 AM
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So... what did overeem actually test positive for? Is it guaranteed he cheated or is it still up in the air? Doesn't really matter though, 2 or 3 shots from each guy and JDS will be hurt really bad holding his ribs while Overeem is lying on the ground rolling round wondering what happened. JDS is the Aldo of HW, there are no current skillsets that beat him. Overeem's chin is too weak to beat him, to Beat JDS you need a Hendo like Chin because Junior's fights usually end with one punch.
No, they don't. Where the hell does that myth come from¿ Dos Santos has 4 (four) KO victories in 16 fights, one of those being by soccer kick, the rest of his victories have come by TKO, submission or decision. Velasquez also wasn't out after the big punch, but primarily lost his equilibrium, because the punch caught him behind his ear, and then got finished with several punches on the ground. Dos Santos is NOT a one punch KO artist, he is arguably the best technical HW striker who picks his opponents apart and with his skills he is the best HW at the moment. There is no need to impute something to him that is factually just not correct.
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No, they don't. Where the hell does that myth come from¿ Dos Santos has 4 (four) KO victories in 16 fights, one of those being by soccer kick, the rest of his victories have come by TKO, submission or decision. Velasquez also wasn't out after the big punch, but primarily lost his equilibrium, because the punch caught him behind his ear, and then got finished with several punches on the ground. Dos Santos is NOT a one punch KO artist, he is arguably the best technical HW striker who picks his opponents apart and with his skills he is the best HW at the moment. There is no need to impute something to him that is factually just not correct.
one punch ends a fight when both fighters are coherent, there is an exchange and one fighter is extremely injured while the other is fine. I never said JDS is a one punch ko-artist, he is a one punch fight changer though. Nearly every one of his tko's comes from one solid punch that changes the entire fight from even to almost over. I never said ko artist, I chose my words very wisely hoping that people would be smart enough to read between the lines instead of finding the part they think is wrong to try and tell me they know more than I do. I've seen all of his fights that I could find, I know exactly what happened in all of them. Guys like Aldo or Jon Jones tko guys by wearing them down, guys like Hendo or Hendricks can finish fights with one punch ko's and JDS changes the fight to almost over with one punch. It is unwise to tell someone what they said is wrong when they never said it.

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It is unwise to tell someone what they said is wrong when they never said it.
Word it better next time then so there's no confusion. As I sure as well thought you meant he was a one punch KO artist.


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one punch ends a fight when both fighters are coherent, there is an exchange and one fighter is extremely injured while the other is fine.
That's what usually happens at HW. Most people acknowledge that Dos Santos is the best striker at HW and therefor he has the best chances to end the fight with such a fight ending punch in the way you now define it. So you just wanted to state the obvious, ok no problem with that
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...All this talk about Overeem. He won against a scared, outclassed Rogers. Fought to a tough on-the-feet decision against Werdum in Strikeforce and liverkicked a surgically repaired Brock Lesnar. Reem's chin is glass compared to Juniors. He hasn't faced the UFC elites like a Cain or JDS. I can't ever remember seeing JDS actually hurt from a punch in a fight. He's never been seriously rocked and has been caught with hard shots by Nelson, Mir, ect. JDS has TDD just as good or better than Overeem. Honestly, a specialist like JDS with the best hands in the HW division can serious put away Overeem if he connects. Overeem has trouble fighting in close quarters, i.e. like when he fought Werdum. Werdum was staying busy and landing combos. Junior will try and knock Reem's head off with his sweet angles and brutal KO power...
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That's what usually happens at HW. Most people acknowledge that Dos Santos is the best striker at HW and therefor he has the best chances to end the fight with such a fight ending punch in the way you now define it. So you just wanted to state the obvious, ok no problem with that
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