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Old 08-12-2012, 11:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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UFC 150 results: I'm glad *SPOILERS*

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There are only three places in life where a person's every action must be clear and obvious to even the stupidest observer: Junior High School, prison and mixed martial arts.

Those three environments do not tolerate nuance, subtlety, or irony. Those three audiences are not enamored of obfuscation, small strokes or fine calibration.

Nope, if you're in the pen, Middle School or the Octagon, the audience demands big, bold obvious gestures that cannot be misinterpreted.

Perhaps former UFC Lightweight champion Frankie Edgar has finally learned that lesson after dropping a decision loss to current champ Ben Henderson at UFC 150 last night in Denver. While a considerable majority of the fight cognoscenti who took to Twitter, Facebook and the Bloody Elbow comment section to voice their opinions thought Edgar won his rematch with Henderson, 2/3 of the judges didn't see things that way and Frankie lost the fight.

Good.

Frankie Edgar, skilled and capable as he is, has been boring the daylights out of the Lightweight division since taking the belt from B.J. Penn at UFC 112 in April 2010. Apparently he's been laboring under the misapprehension that fans and judges appreciate his elegant point-fighting style.

Alas Mr. Edgar we do not.

MMA fans thirst for clear conclusions. We want definitive answers, not 50 shades of Frankie Edgar. With the exception of his second title bout with Gray Maynard, every single Frankie Edgar LW title fight has left its outcome to the judges to decide and the fans to debate.

Heed the call Frankie, move on down to Featherweight where maybe you'll have the heft and muscle to force a stoppage on opponents instead of sending it to the judges.

I'm so looking forward to seeing Ben Henderson defend his title against Nate Diaz. I'm even happier that I don't have to worry about whatever skilled, subtle and nuanced approach Frankie Edgar would take to sucking all the fun out of Diaz' Stockton Brawl style and making sure the judges have a hard decision to render.

Good luck at Featherweight Frankie, fans of the Lightweight division won't miss you.
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Felt that this article deserved it's own thread. I agree with every single word, I'm also glad Frankie got robbed.

Boring points fighter.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah.... Nothing like people that lose almost every round still getting the win... That is just dumb.
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Boring points fighter.
There were 2 combatants. Most of the fight was on the feet so it's not like Frankie was laying on him. Frankie threw more punches, more kicks and dropped Henderson. He got closer to finishing Benson than the other way around. How come his a boring points fighter based on this peformance?

Not debating whether he won or lose.
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I had it like this...

1 - Bendo
2 - Edgar
3 - Draw...always goes to champ for the most part
4 - Edgar
5 - Close as well...had it going to Bendo.

As a champ, you get the benefit of close rounds because if the challenger keeps it close enough to where you are questioning who won the round, it will go to the champ more times than not.

Neither fighter did enough to steal rounds besides rounds 1 and 2. I could have seen Edgar winning it and I wound have been fine with that, and I also could have seen Bendo winning it and I am happier with that result.

I don't like watching Edgar in particular because I just find him boring. I hope he drops down, as it is his natural weight class, and he will have a easier time finishing fights facing smaller opponents.

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There were 2 combatants. Most of the fight was on the feet so it's not like Frankie was laying on him. Frankie threw more punches, more kicks and dropped Henderson. He got closer to finishing Benson than the other way around. How come his a boring points fighter based on this peformance?

Not debating whether he won or lose.
Henderson landed more significant strikes, which is all that matters. Who cares if a fighter pats you on the face, because thats the only way Frankie out struck Bendo. Also, that drop down in the 4th round I believe, Henderson was off balance so it wasn't really a knock down.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
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There were 2 combatants. Most of the fight was on the feet so it's not like Frankie was laying on him. Frankie threw more punches, more kicks and dropped Henderson. He got closer to finishing Benson than the other way around. How come his a boring points fighter based on this peformance?

Not debating whether he won or lose.
Did you read the article? Where was this based on Frankies one performance? Edgar is notorious for his boring, points based boxing style in all of his fights. He's finished one fight in three years. His corner were even instructing him in the first Bendo fight to "just score points".

I'm just not a fan of point fighting in general and I'm glad that Frankie will be out of the title picture for a while (hopefully for good).
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Did you read the article? Where was this based on Frankies one performance? Edgar is notorious for his boring, points based boxing style in all of his fights. He's finished one fight in three years. His corner were even instructing him in the first Bendo fight to "just score points".

I'm just not a fan of point fighting in general and I'm glad that Frankie will be out of the title picture for a while (hopefully for good).
Frankie wins on points because he is flat out the better fighter, which he showed against Bendo again.
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I am pretty sure I hear a lot of loud Frankie chants while he fights. I guess those people don't count as fans.
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I am pretty sure I hear a lot of loud Frankie chants while he fights. I guess those people don't count as fans.
Agreed. The article is literally a Frankie hater speaking for people regardless if the information is true or not.
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Also, the fact that Frank had, what, 3 fight of the year contending fights during this time kind of invalidates the "boring" argument. Sounds like it's written by a knock out hunter of a fan. It's entirely untrue that there aren't subtleties to this sport and that's a pretty ridiculous thing to even say Imo

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