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Is two belts per weight class the answer?

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#1 ·
I know I know, you all hate boxing and everything about it.

But if there were two belts per weight class in the UFC, and two distinct champions, would that basically fix all the problems?

Not a champ and an interim champ. Two separate champs.

That way when one champion is injured or doesn't want to fight for 6+ months at a time, there'd be a different champion to do it instead.

And there'd be no, 'oh so and so has no chance to dethrone the champ' because there'd be two champs. And in order to stay relevant champions would pretty much HAVE to fight, or just get forgotten.

Also with two belts, it would be a lot easier to strip champions imo since there'd be two of them anyway.

I'm sure this suggestion will get a lot of counter arguments, so I'll wait for the specific counter argument to crop up, before I explain why this would be better.
 
#6 ·
Two belts, really two friggin belts, that would mean people like Fitch would have been considered a 'champion'.

Plus seriously how do you determine who the real best in a divison is, do you let them fight and unify the belts? Is one the CHAMP and the other the Sorta Champ? Do you have to beat the Sorta Champ to fight the CHAMP?
 
#9 ·
Nope.

Two distinct belts.

Remember when Wanderlei Silva was the PRIDE champ and Chuck Liddel was the UFC champ?

That was a lot more fun imo.

It stirs debate/controversy. It makes things more exciting.

It leads to more compelling forum shit-talking.

Two champs is better imo. I don't need one supreme champ, especially if he only fights twice a year and hand picks his opponents.

Having two different champs would force champs to fight, and to fight legit competition because otherwise everyone would say 'meh, who cares about X, Y is the better champ anyway'

Why not 3?
Not enough fighters in each division for 3 champs imo, but maybe one day.

Hey guys, novel idea, how about you actually put forth some counter arguments like STU or Archer instead of just going the Bill O'Reilly route?

But it's up to you how you want to answer at the end of the day.
 
#14 ·
Good point.

I think they would have to fight each other once in a while, but I don't think unification would work, as that would counteract the whole point in the first place. Just have them fight, and that's it.

Yeah because when interm title holders don't fight the champ as quickly as possible people are really into that. They don't complain that there isn't a real champ.
People complaining on internet forums isn't something people running multimillion dollar organizations actually care about, believe it or not.

Two champs would bring a lot of excitment to the WW, MW, and LHW divisions especially.

More meaningful fights at each weight class would be fine by me.
 
#15 ·
People complaining on internet forums isn't something people running multimillion dollar organizations actually care about, believe it or not.

Two champs would bring a lot of excitment to the WW, MW, and LHW divisions especially.

More meaningful fights at each weight class would be fine by me.
Didn't you just say it would stir up more talk if there were two belts? You need to make up your mind, it would just be confusing for casual fans too.

Also my other point you didn't address. What do you do when the champs fight every couple of years? Just make another belt, Anderson would have like 8 at this point.
 
#16 ·
How have I not made up my mind. I think this would work. I'm yet to see a compelling argument for why it wouldn't other than the fact that it's new, and people don't like change.

Who are these casual fans? and if they're so casual, who cares if they're confused?

I've never met a casual fan. There's mma fans, who are rabid, and people who don't give a shit, but will watch it if it's on tv. I'll watch Pawn Stars if it's on and I don't have anything else to do, doesn't make me a fan, casual or not.
 
#28 ·
Fair enough.

I think upgrading Condit to an actual champ, and having him rematch Diaz would be better than waiting around for GSP.

Then when GSP comes back the onus would be on HIM to reaffirm why he was champ in the first place. GSP could beat a few guys and sometime in 2014 perhaps the two champs would fight.

And a second champ at MW would do wonders for the division, which is stagnant as hell right now, and has a champ who isn't fighting again for 6 months while Belcher, Weidman and Bisping are all worthy contenders.
 
#31 ·
I like that idea as well. I dislike it when champs only fight once or twice a year. You go and fight your ass off to become champion, and then all of a sudden fight a handful of fights for the next few years, and all you're doing is not giving the up and comers a good enough chance to have what you have.
 
#30 ·
I got a better idea. We'll have 4 champions right and every time they have a number 1 contender they choose a champion to fight. Then after they choose the champion they want, they get a secret techniques like, leg kicks, or wrestling, or bjj, or right hooks and they have to fight using mainly that technique. We can call it Iron Chef..I mean uh Iron UFC
 
#33 ·
Two belts... per division...in ONE org?

That's just... I don't get it. At all. It sounds ridiculous. Sounds like a glorified interim champ/number one contender to me and utterly pointless.
 
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