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post #21 of 51 (permalink) Old 08-14-2012, 02:32 PM
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Wasn't everyone saying that Jim Millers wrestling was going to best Diaz?

Weren't people saying the cowboys kicks and more well rounded striking was going to best Nate?

Neither happened.

Unless Bendo wants to play tag and run, which I'm confident he won't, he loses this fight 9/10.

I don't think fans can appreciate just how impressive his dominant victories over Jim Miller and Donald Cerrone were.

Submitting and dominating Miller like that was incredibly impressive and really shown the evolution of Nates elite, world class grappling game.

The cowboy is one of the best strikers in the LW division and Nate absolutely steam rolled him.

Bendo had struggled with Cerrone in the first fight (a fight quite a few people think cowboy won) and had a gruelling fight with Jim Miller, where Nate made light work of him and finished him in the second round.

I admire both fighters, but I'm a Diaz fan through and through. He's taking that belt.
This. I think Diaz has surpassed his normal expectations as a fighter. He blitzed through a style that he used to have problems with, and showed that he can easily fight someone who has a very good standing game. Get ready to see a new LW champion by the end of the year.

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post #22 of 51 (permalink) Old 08-14-2012, 02:58 PM
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Diaz got this. Bendo's kicking strategy was catching Edgar, shame he could only execute the gameplan for one round before abandoning it due to Frankie's pressure.

Diaz brings more pressure and the ability to strike from further away, I can't see Bendo outsmarting or hurting him on the feet. Unfortunately Bendo is striking more and more, forgetting what got him to where he is - being unpredictable and taking the fight seamlessly from feet to ground/vice versa. Similar to Jon Jones.

I think if there is a takedown attempt in this fight, it'll likely be initiated by Bendo due to getting beat on the feet. If he takes Diaz down in a panic or when he's rocked, chances are he'll be submitted.

Bendo is a tough fight for any LW but I think Diaz is a very tough fight for him.

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You know what's funny. I actually wanted to see Edgar vs Diaz even though I picked Bendo to win. I think Bendo is gonna drill em with his kicks and take it to the ground. He seems pretty confident with his submission defense so expect him to be controlling him on the ground for majority of the rounds to a UD win. Only way I see it ending for Diaz is if Bendo gets cocky and becomes a "stupid donkey" like Chael...ahaha!

As I said though if Diaz and Cerrone both win I'll be laughing my ass off. I was hella surprised Diaz took it to Cerrone. I wonder what it is that confuses their opponents. I'm watching it, but I'm still scratching my head. I mean look at BJ, Paul Daley, Zaromskis, Cerrone, and even the Irish Hand Grenade whom was an amateur boxer. They all looked pretty sub par against the Diaz Bros.

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Henderson's strategy will be: leg kicks, leg kicks, TDs.

Diaz has a history of having problems against bigger, stronger guys, who have a good wrestling game: Rory, Kim, Guida, Maynard.

Henderson falls in the same cathegory.

I give Diaz the advantage in the striking department...but at the end of the day he is no Frankie Edgar, even though his boxing is top notch, he doesn't have the speed that Frankie has, and that was what caused Henderson a lot of problems in his fight against Frankie.

If Henderson is smart, he will take it to the ground and try to use heavy GnP, similar to Rory.

Either way, should be a good fight.

My money is on Henderson.
Thats exactly it, Henderson is not stupid and i dont think he has ever been in a "brawl" or "scrap". He is going to be on his bike most of the time, backing off and try to destroy the legs Diaz, then Probably end the rounds with a takedown. Diaz brothers are amazing fighters but their styles are very exploitable against point fighters, and for sure thats what bendo style is going to be in this fight.

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Nate won't have a good night against Henderson... but I will sure enjoy the fight. Thinking it will go to a decision.


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Wasn't everyone saying that Jim Millers wrestling was going to best Diaz?

Weren't people saying the cowboys kicks and more well rounded striking was going to best Nate?

Neither happened.

Unless Bendo wants to play tag and run, which I'm confident he won't, he loses this fight 9/10.

I don't think fans can appreciate just how impressive his dominant victories over Jim Miller and Donald Cerrone were.

Submitting and dominating Miller like that was incredibly impressive and really shown the evolution of Nates elite, world class grappling game.

The cowboy is one of the best strikers in the LW division and Nate absolutely steam rolled him.

Bendo had struggled with Cerrone in the first fight (a fight quite a few people think cowboy won) and had a gruelling fight with Jim Miller, where Nate made light work of him and finished him in the second round.

I admire both fighters, but I'm a Diaz fan through and through. He's taking that belt.
If I recall correctly, Cerrone consistantly blasted Diaz's legs right out from under him with kicks/leg-sweeps, dropping him a bunch of times.
If Cerrone had actually chosen to follow Diaz down, it could have been a different result.

Bendo will likely blast Diaz's legs as well, but unlike Cerrone, will then promptly assume a dominant top position for GnP until/unless stood up.

Bendo is much, much better than Cerrone.

While I luv watching me some Diaz in the octagon, I have to bet against him here.

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If I recall correctly, Cerrone consistantly blasted Diaz's legs right out from under him with kicks/leg-sweeps, dropping him a bunch of times.
If Cerrone had actually chosen to follow Diaz down, it could have been a different result.

Bendo will likely blast Diaz's legs as well, but unlike Cerrone, will then promptly assume a dominant top position for GnP until/unless stood up.

Bendo is much, much better than Cerrone.

While I luv watching me some Diaz in the octagon, I have to bet against him here.

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Bendo was supposed to kick Edgar all night, he managed it for the first round and despite being successful, Frankies pressure and boxing forced him away from that strategy. Bendo said it himself.

Diaz is the perfect fighter to exploit that better than Edgar did.

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Nate has only lost to guys bigger than him, and mainly wrestlers. The fact that he won over ONE, Miller, does not chance that.


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This is Bendo's fight to lose if he brings a bad game plan. I'll love seeing Diaz in his face though.
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Bendo was supposed to kick Edgar all night, he managed it for the first round and despite being successful, Frankies pressure and boxing forced him away from that strategy. Bendo said it himself.

Diaz is the perfect fighter to exploit that better than Edgar did.
With respect, Diaz's boxing, while very effective, is miles away from Edgar's boxing in terms of styles and how they're implemented in the octagon.

In addition, IMO Diaz is slower than Edgar.

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